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Sorry, but his so called research leads to continual negative posting. One minute he’s an expert in production, then NPD, the next shipping fuel cells around the world.
Many of us on here do similar research for our own piece of mind, but don’t cut and paste the same old stuff day after day and follow it up with negative comments!
Strikes me most people on here are pretty open minded, if you feel he’s getting a bashing, then there’s probably a good reason. The majority are rarely wrong
Well said quiz, DW is good , he just goes on a bit, when you do as much research as him we can let him off. Amazing to see how well we are holding up! What a time to be involved
There seems to be a lot of DW bashing here. For my part, I have been invested in AFC for over a decade and DW has contributed to the debate throughout the journey, generally constructively and thoughtfully. However, some of us (me included) are hugely frustrated at the wait we've endured and perhaps jaded as a result. Fortunately, this saga is nearing its end game and we should see a dramatic SP upswing with near term contracts and orders, after which we may just be a 'normal' investment based on logic rather than MM commission drivers. In the meantime, let's focus on the facts, not the personalities. I've filtered CrazyIL (lack of brain cells) and xxxAccountant (duplicity), but I don't want to delete too many posts.
For some light relief tomorrow, what about a game of "DW Bingo"
The magic words to be on the look out from DW are:-
Bond - reference to milking the company.
Market Manipulation - by the corrupt MM.
AB - terrible comms record.
Extensive Research - "that you have done" - which to be honest you have!
Toblerone - or reference to any other Swiss based chocolate.
Eyes Down Look In!!
I seem to recall that you were a Swiss fella - how's about a bit of neutrality when it comes to AB and Comms - there's a good boy!! Mayt...
DW, you’re like a broken record. I had reservations about AB early last year, mainly due to a lack of updates and my own frustration of how the share was performing.
Surely you’re intelligent enough to realise the majority of this board are sick and tired of your constant negative and ramblings about the same points, hour after hour.
If you bought in at 20p, then AFC, including AB, have made you a 350% profit. Most people would be happy, but you continue to moan on and on.
Why don’t you have a couple of months off and give us all a break, much appreciated Red
Spot on Southerhay, if they did not trust the guy at the helm and did not have orders in the pipe they would not have invested
The more I look into dutco the more I like afc, check out their website
"Dutco is also committed to environmental protection and ensures that projects adhere to the very best environmental practices.
We have a market cap of £500m for a firm that is on the brink of full blown commercialisation - I would say the market definitely likes us and we are priced accordingly.
Also so you are saying only ABB, Dutco and all our other partners have access to AB AND the rest of our intellectual property? Utter nonsense and therefore AB is not the reason other investors are not investing.
Prior to proper orders and real revenue generation a lot of institution investors will simply not invest.
It’s coming and AB is doing everything right IMHO.
DW. So ABB and (a long established relationship with) Dutco know AFCs products and will no doubt want to order whatever configurations needed. They will have a relationship with AB and there will be trust as part of the relationship. They wouldn’t have entertained investing in AFC if both of those essential elements were not in place.
Why oh why are we still having conversations about AB? He got us to where we are now by having full confidence in the company, full confidence in the ability to deliver working products and full confidence in himself to deliver these for shareholders.
We are in there here and now. I am excited to be a shareholder after some nervous years.
AFC has the ability and funding to deliver a truly disruptive technology and we, as genuine PIs are investing in the start of something big. Smile, your in profit DW, you have 2 options - sell or hold, easy if you’re still not happy.
· ABB Schweiz AG invests £3.25 million into AFC Energy as a strong signal of corporate commitment across the international e-Mobility market.
To answer th elast word, I am not invested here because of AB, I am invested due to extensive research myself and some know how in research, which I for shur enot all present here and also as I invested at an average of about 20 p to 25 p in total, so no risk but huge chance... Easy as it is...
Ask yourself, do you think ABB and Dutco and others would have invested in AFC only based on AB`s history and word ? Guess everyone knows the answer here if honest.
keep in mind, all the investors and also ABB taking place in the funding had to deal with mostly the company and internal know how of the technology and therefor not just with AB`s words, compared to that everyone else deals with AB`s words and rpomises still, so I guess that is the reason ABB and others invested, not AB itself only and it is the reason why anyone else is not overwhelmingly stepping in to invest.
Yea Stagger the market and the share confirm the believ yet in your so called jesus leader... LOL.. dont forget, was was reached or communicated by your leader also when all went down and lot of promises where meade although he should have known differently was within his responsibility too. End of story. I think the market confirms his credibility in communication, look at the SP
Corporate governance is a key focus in the industry particularly with ESG implementation across funds (the G of ESG for those less familiar).
If DW has doubts about our intrepid leader still then he should sell his significant holding immediately - yet he doesn’t? Do you just like to moan then?
All I am seeing is an articulate leader that is driving the company to commercialisation after of course a few false dawns (every company, every nascent tech has these - par for course).
Most of our tech is now ready, the market is ready and most of our partners are ready....
Orders are imminent IMHO.
abb and dutco are commercial partners, expect orders
"the expansion of its existing strategic partnership with ABB, the provider of electric vehicle charge points, electrification and digitalisation technologies, through the signing of a new Development Agreement for the integration and supply of fuel cells to the global data centre market. Further details of this relationship are being released in a separate announcement this morning;
· equity investment received from commercial partners, ABB (£3.25 million) and Dutco (£1.5 million), by way of a subscription of 7,364,340 new Ordinary Shares raising in aggregate £4.75 million (the "Subscription"); and
I am not arguing what AB did no or might have done now and that the company even withhim is on a good way now, I am arguing, that we have a new IR head and he is better off to present the company right now withmuchmore credibility compared to AB which is still burned towards investors for some time. Otherwise there is no reason at all why the PPS is still down after all the cooperations and news the last weeks. People dont forget as investors so fast what AB promised over a long time and did not deliver.... his fault or not....
DW. Over the years Bond has, at times, been prematurely enthusiastic wrt the timeline for becoming commercial, but this is a common trait of leaders driving change and unsurprising for new technologies. He is energetic, articulate, technically competent and well placed to take AFC to the next level. I don't think he has deceived, but was probably constrained by the technical challenges that are thrown during the journey for any groundbreaking concept. I think he can lead the charge, but I would be happier to see/hear more from the rest of the BoD - they are running a potential global leader, not auditioning for the next re-make of the 'Invisible Man'.
Looks like selling pressure is gone should head back over 70s soon, order book is bullish
Second that athansuis.
In response to Haggis’ post earlier I hold my hands up as one who has been critical of AB in the past....mostly around communication. So it is only right to state that at present I think he is doing a fantastic job and I have full confidence in him.
Messages sent to me back in 2015:
"Adam is the real deal the first full time professional CEO this company has ever had"
"Adam is the driving force"
"Best thing that has ever happened to AFC"
And this on his CV "Adam held positions with the British Government as Project Director, Lead Negotiator and Commercial Lead for theUnited Kingdom’s first carbon capture and storage programme. He was also instrumental in the design of the commercial framework for delivery of the United Kingdom’s offshore electricity transmission network."
Clearly to anyone with two brain cells to rub together, AB can't sell a product until he has a commercially viable product to sell. At the end of 2019 he got that product and has since made massive inroads into commercialisation with Extreme E, ABB, Ricardo, Dutco, etc etc.
Anyone saying AB needs to be replaced is talking out of their rear end, as usual.
Quiz what are you talking about ? There are lots of companies out there much much bigger then AFC ever will be which are lead by one person ! Yes it might be that Bond did a great work, but in terms of communication he is burned for some time and the company would probably do better towards investors if Ian took over and within time Bpond might or could step in again ones the company delivers....
BB2. Absolutely spot on. Adam Bond is doing a fantastic job transitioning from R&D to full commercial operation. He is an intelligent articulate man and this is clearly well received by the good work he is doing amongst his peers within the H2 Council. We should be comfortable with the current position of AFC and feel confident that they are positioning themselves to be a market leader in hydrogen electrification.