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And who provides the tech.
I’ll be happy with us successfully charging ExE, then maybe the contract for the E1 powerboats. We have an ‘in’ to the formula E series with ABB for grid power at some point. That’s enough racing for me as I’d like to see AFC get back to the day job of signing a multi-system contract in the near future for generators or ev charging.
Not only the cars move quickly in F1, so do decisions on tech.
I'm not saying AB would say no to a great deal with F1, however I believe they would need to clean their act up a bit first. The F1 circus is a bit of a millionaires playground toy, full of dodgy advertising and characters in the background. No doubt cutting edge and has benefited humanity with some technology, I still believe its days are numbered.
I always felt AFC were trying to keep real green credentials, which was was I predicted they would not target the offshore market (amongst other reasons). If you look at the route they are taking so far, it's quite brave and quite bold, targeting big industries and looking to, without sounding corny, rewrite history, certainly be part of it. There's still far more money and potential in the current line up. If trains and shipping become a reality, building, data centres and EV does well, we really don't need to speculate anymore, these markets alone, if achieved successfully by AFC will pay off for all handsomely I'm sure.
Ineos hope provide the hydrogen for the Mercedes F1 team. ...https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/hydrogen-fuel-technology/8543081/ common knowledge.
The solid cell is due next year and that will pack a big punch with alkamem exchange membranes.
The 400kw liquid is also due next year.
Exactly Cheeky, it’s not just about the cars for now, the whole F1 event needs to be decarbonised and therefore could be powered by off grid fuels cells in the future.
Time will tell
Oh and by the way, you would not need a 40ft fuel cell as Mr sarcastic suggested, even if you wanted to put them in cars. Fuel cells are scalable ( look up what this means ) Can anybody on here have a discussion without depending into sarcasm and the gutter.
Formula one will be using laboratory synthesised man made petroleum within five years. To be carbon neutral it will take green tech to power everything else. The pits must consume a fair amount of energy on its own.
There’s so much potential deployments out there . Mind boggling.
Obviously some people on here are getting confused. There won't be a fuel cell in the cars. The cars will be fuelled with green hydrogen from a fuel cell unit. I think I need to draw a picture.lol
Fuel cell not to be used in cars. The green hydrogen will be pumped into the cars as petrol is now. Just a change of fuel technology required. Afc proved they can do this.
This is unlikely to be an AFC fuelcell unless the race cars can fit a 40ft container on them. However its not to say that AFC may not be producing hydrogen at some point down the road.
Hydrogen is very flammable and isn’t it too dry to run in a four stroke engine ?
I agree re Formula E but the comment re F1 is also interesting. Lots of power required outside of fuel for the vehicles. Its very possible that ExE may use the fuelcell in the paddocks at some point down the road. It's a game changer.
Also a lot safer in the event of a crash.
Well, we have to move to a green fuel technology for the f1 cars.. what better than green hydrogen instead of polluting fuels. Now that we know Afc's technology worked extremely well, I think we will be designing new hydrogen fuel consumption engines in the very near future. Hydrogen fuel is two to three times more efficient than petrol.
Formula E is nailed on IMO.
The founder is Alejandro Agag . ABB are a sponsor and will be powering the series from next year.
Formula 1 are working on synthetic fuels for the cars by 2025 but still using combustion engines . So is it for running the paddock etc ?
For what purpose would an AFC fuelcell be used in F1 ?
Genuine question.
Maybe for genset replacement we all know they want to get green at F1
No I mean F1.
Do you mean Formula E ?
Get a life you sad sad, you must be one sad ********. All you ever do is try and reduce peoples conversations on here to the gutter, ( where you belong ). Sad sad.
The grapevine i work for Mercedes.
Which grapevine?
Well Guys word on the grapevine is F1 is now interested in the Afc fuelling technology after the phenomenal success of Afc's system fuelling Extreme E. What a coup this will be for Afc.