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Yet we were told there’d be on site generation via solar and electrolyser if I’m not mistaken
Yes I thought the same; it is odd though that neither AFC or Extreme E mentioned it or showed any pics.
It would be interesting to know how large a solar array was needed; a few panels on the top of a container would be unlikely to cut it. Also, who provided the electrolyser?
See How Drastically Climate Change Has Altered Our Planet With Google’s New Timelapse Feature.
https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/google-earth-day-timelapse-feature
Bosch are aligned with Ceres Power on their solid oxide technology, so the H2 sector is clearly taking off. More reason than ever for AFC to get its skates on!
Thank you Staggers, I looked back for the link but couldn’t find it. Good watch.
" we’re able to generate hydrogen in site, as seen at Extreme E."
Do we actually know how the hydrogen was generated for ExtremeE?
Bosch to invest 1 bn in fuel cell tech.
With the investment, Bosch will look to put 100 stationary fuel cell plants into operation this year supplying electricity to users such as data centres, industrial manufacturers and residential areas.
https://www.h2-view.com/story/bosch-to-invest-e1bn-into-fuel-cell-technology/
That was me Duke and the advantages are very clear for those that haven’t seen it.
https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/906781/afc-energys-technology-produces-energy-from-ammonia-906781.html
I am not sure now who posted the Nov 2019 Proactive video this week (thank you!) but AB very clear re. competing with PEM cells on cost. As a further reminder of what he said then:
PEM cells need 99.999% (5x9s) pure H2 which AB said they were buying at £10-£12 per cubic meter.
AFC can use 99.9% (3x9s) less pure H2 buying for under £2 per cubic meter.
Whatever 2021 prices are that’s a huge cost competitiveness that’s starting to be recognised as per ABB’s comments etc.
I should have included that AFCs cells use minimal precious metals as well
Well, the liquid cells must have many other advantages that we haven’t heard about other than the ones we know about of course . Let’s highlight some of these such as the ability to consume less pure hydrogen or ammonia as an input source via a cracker, less heat generated, cheaper materials such as plastic used (due to the lower heat output) and we’re able to generate hydrogen in site, as seen at Extreme E.
At the moment it’s only our partners that aware of any other advantages that AFCs liquid cells bring to the table otherwise they wouldn’t be considering using our cells before the solid cells come along. Therefore we have an immediate and growing market for them. Exciting times ahead!
Google are looking to carbon free for their data centres too, old article but they’ve just been on Bloomberg so the new article probably not even out yet
Basically they’ve been purchasing green energy to offset the pollution they create what they’re crying out for is AFC’s fuel cell...
Let’s get google on board now...lol ;)
https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/inside-google-cloud/announcing-round-the-clock-clean-energy-for-cloud/
You make a good point here Garonne, there is still an underlying belief that PEM fuel cells are superior to AFCs. I have noticed this first hand when chatting to people with some knowledge on the subject.
Can we all agree on right product at the right time now? Time being somewhat subjective if impatient.
Once the advantages of alkaline fuel cells over PEM fuel cells become well known i.e. much less platinum and tolerance of lower grade hydrogen sourced by cracking ammonia contributing to a much cheaper product, then AFC should be the supplier of choice for data centres, EV charging units etc. Somebody once said AFC had blue sky potential. Maybe we're about to climb through the clouds!
Jboy GTC on its knees .
Thanks jhonboy great read . If you search ABB / AFC on their site they have covered the investment by ABB also an article about smaller data centres in now disused office space in city centres ( COVID 19) but requiring clean backup power, any idea where they could purchase that from ? Hold tight to your winning lottery tickets we all know we have won but not how much yet!
Nice read, and it covers the full spectrum of possibilities. I notice it said they didn't think mass scale hydrogen power data centres would be a reality for 3 years. Mass scale in 3 years, yes please!
great article...this is going to be huge for AFC!!!
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/analysis/could-hydrogen-kill-diesel/