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Good post, spot on.
The ever, yes you did, no I didn't, plus all the posters tempted to continually reply to those that most have on ignore, is the main reason many of us no longer post on this thread.
I just had to reply to your post, hoping that people will take notice (I doubt it) and this thread gets back to a thread worth reading through, instead of skimming quickly down dozens of posts, looking for the ever rare post that actually is worth reading.
‘certain individuals are part of this‘
Southern, if there is anything nefarious going on, I would welcome an FCA investigation. Like I said, I am only concerned with the share price of this company going north.
That said, I think what you’re saying is that people can’t or shouldn’t express their views and feelings here if they are critical. I would respectfully disagree with that sentiment.
“Don’t you think it is somewhat manipulative when a poster can stretch a point to breaking point raising 36 so-called reasons why the CEO has failed, and then after a week or two of drops suddenly wants to buy into the company. It just stretches credibility.“
Alt - yes it is possible for someone to remain an investor, and raise 36 points that he feels the ceo has failed to deliver. That’s what real commitment and a real investor looks like.
Alt-muddle, great idea to start a what's up group just for the few not the many... LOL
And i would trust you.. Alt-muddle.. to start it and give you my tel number via email and conferm it in here the identity of each member...
“So let me get this straight Bondy. On Friday you were advising someone to sell, late in the afternoon. Now you wish you had more money to buy more. Isn’t there a bit of a contradiction there?”
Alt - on Friday someone on this board intimated that for them the loss was a very large amount of money (for them). I felt sorry for that person and feel that potentially in part he has been sucked in by the ramping on this board and perhaps overcommitted. Yes I advised that person that if they can’t afford to lose more, consider selling. Note : not ‘I think you should sell’. That was my take on a specific situation, not blanket advice for everyone to sell. I think it’s fair to say to someone to think about it because you don’t know how serious a situation losing that money could be for them.
At the same time, yes, I can say that if I had more disposable I would put it in to AFC. I’m fortunate to be in a fairly comfortable position but just because I am, doesn’t mean I would watch someone who potentially has overcommitted or is inexperienced squander his family’s money on a speculative bet.
Great idea Segedunum.
Why don't you all just set up a whatsapp app group or something where you can all just endlessly argue with eachother about who is a conman and who said this last week and who has changed thier tune and who has blah blah blah, you can all just sit texting each other your monumentally dreary drivel that no one else cares about. That's basically what your doing already through the medium of this forum, your like a group of deranged 13 year old *****es sitting texting each other while presumably ignoring thier family and the real world. People are posting past midnight and waking up at 6am to post more crap Lolllllllllllll.
Roll on next week, been long enough since the last update now let's have some news pleaseeeeeeeee thanks.
And if we are going to get onto the subject of word twisting let’s not forget your contributions on the subject of development around Dunsfold a few months back…
Don’t you think it is somewhat manipulative when a poster can stretch a point to breaking point raising 36 so-called reasons why the CEO has failed, and then after a week or two of drops suddenly wants to buy into the company. It just stretches credibility.
Read my posts last night then red.
Alt - why do you always twist things to stir up an argument? Bondy clearly stated to sell if you need the money, yet you’ve twisted it to suggest it was a general sell recommendation.
There’s 2 extremes on here, one talking it down while others portray blind faith in the face of reality and talk it up. I prefer reading posts from those with an open mind and realise there’s both positives and negatives at the moment for AFC, not the blinkered extreme views that they can only do wrong or only do right
Alt-muddle, you deserve a medal for always having the good manners of putting up with all the rats on here.... Well done
So let me get this straight Bondy. On Friday you were advising someone to sell, late in the afternoon. Now you wish you had more money to buy more. Isn’t there a bit of a contradiction there?
Bond the con man
Bondy - it’s market driven absolutely but when groups of individuals suddenly appear adding to negative market sentiment, then of course it becomes a perfect storm and certain individuals are part of this, either for personal gain or gains by the organisations they represent.
I hope the FCA does investigate activities on boards such as this to ensure we have a non-corrupt market
The real con men on this board are Ade and number. Oh and you Haggis.
I'm still ****ging off the CEO, so how have I changed my tune? I didn't buy any stock, and haven't in the past 4 or 5 months. I wish I had the funds to, but I don't. I would buy at these levels.
Stop calling me a con man.
Bondy is just another con man that sl*gg*d off the AFC Energy CEO using libellous claims and defamation on this board, and ****ged off EVERYTHING the company has achieved. He is a liar and a cheat. He clearly did this to try and force shareholders to sell out, and for other investors to avoid buying in. Once the share price dropped to where he thought the bottom was, he bought the stock, and is now ramping it in the hope of a profit as the tech sector recovers.
Put the con man on filter and stop giving him oxygen, he should be left to rot talking to himself, along with garmoan, ade, and many other con men on here.
“Trying to be a bit more optimistic “ after your torrent of negativity last (coinciding with a large drop in SP) is a tad rich isn’t it?"
Southern, are you actually blaming me for the drop in the share price? Honestly!?? So which is it, is it the market or is it me? Perhaps I think that with more tangible progress we wouldn't have had such a drop? Right now I would have thought we would have more than 0 units in the field. I'm entitled to share my frustration and opinion freely.
Well, we have one thing in common. I have also e-mailed the company several times recently about communication lapses.
Bondy - thank you, but I’ve never sought the need to smoke pot and I certainly don’t believe anyone is “out to get me “ .
“Trying to be a bit more optimistic “ after your torrent of negativity last (coinciding with a large drop in SP) is a tad rich isn’t it?
'He was responsible for the pivot towards generators and ev charging' - I can probably give you this one. But it goes back to what i was saying about moving form R&D to commercial business selling units. I'm sure somewhere inside you, there is a part of you that can understand that having heard the '1GW by 2020', and plenty other not so lofty but similarly leading comments, that when '50 qualified leads' and 'Multiple deals by Q4' passes, one has a reason to get the right royal hump. Which is what I had at the time of making that original post. It actually inspired me to sign up and start talking about it because between Haggis's posts I didn't think anyone was looking at what could be a very clear problem here.
Again, I hope I am proven wrong, but without raising the 'misses' and the lapses of communication, the company wont be motivated to improve. I do intend to encourage the company to be more open, honest and communicative with us and treat us with a bit more respect. I email them directly to this effect regularly. I have a genuine right to feel this way. one day maybe over a beer we'll have a good old chat about it. Overall, I hope this comes good.
Given that your heading was originally "Adam Bond's Lack of Progress" don't you just feel ever so slightly embarrassed?
There has been a lot of progress under him. He inherited a dodgy system with issues, and a flawed business model (selling power to the chlor-alkali industry). He has turned that around. They now have a liquid cell that has performed in public around the world. They have the HFC about to be launched. The solid cell attracting interest and investment from ABB. Markets redefined. I could go on. There are many positives. Communication with shareholders is a gaping hole, I will agree there and we are all waiting impatiently for sales.
So are you going to copy the text about the liquid cell you referred to before in full so people can see if you summarised fairly?
Look Alt, I am trying to be a bit more optimistic. Extreme E statrs in a couple of weeks. Neom. Great time to release an RNS. Perhaps Altaaqa actually committing to purchasing / leasing at a reasonable scale. It will only take one of these types of deals to get it going. The more I'm reading in to Methanol, the more I'm getting excited about near term potential.
They are dead in the water and we know why. The system he inherited had flaws, as did the market. He was responsible for the pivot towards generators and ev charging. I call that sensible management.