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If we want to provide fuel cell propulsion power to the whole range of big ships we will eventually need to provide around 150,000 BHP (110,000KW) for container and cruise ships, not as much as the 200,000BHP of WW2 battleships in WW2, but plenty of thought and scope there. Battery sizes for six weeks of full power and hotel services would be virtually impossible.
With good regard for the environment perhaps our demands on power may be curbed in the future.
Food for thought.
Seance: Take a look at some of the pictures on here to see the size of the diesel generators on a cruise ship. Some of these ships have 5 generators producing 10MW each.
https://www.cruisemapper.com/wiki/752-cruise-ship-engine-propulsion-fuel
By the way, I was talking about cruise ships, not cruisers!
Had a glass or 2, Jenbacher
methane (LFG) might be a different animal!
Enter AFC high power density model ?
Very very loose figures, I've supplied LFG to Janbacer 620 engines (20 cylinders) they give out between between 2.6 and 4 megawatts of leccy dependant on fuel quality and take up the room of most people's downstairs living space. I can't see this amount of space taken up to supply 50mw in a cruiser, this is in my humble opinion and stand to be corrected. Have a look at one on google! Engineering isn't my strong point, 50mw is bloody massive imho
We can’t speak to Greta, she’s in a pedelo in Baltic Sea ....
Have a great weekend peeps
Continuing to go up on Tradegate. Bodes well for Monday.
Good to see Pollution free shipping developing, looking forward to Afc's shipping containers in port one day.
Ever tried to get a ferry to Scandinavia? The only route is Harwich to The Hook of Holland, then through Germany, Denmark, Across the bridge to Sweden and Norway.. a long drive. They stopped ferries to Sweden and Norway years ago, and Denmark in 2015. Strict emission regs. proved to costly for the ferry operators, great shame.
Cruise ships, oil support vessels, ferries etc. run on diesel-electric systems, using diesel generators to produce electricity, which is then fed to electric motors to drive the propellors. So the fuel cells would replace the diesel generators in this configuration.
Large cruise ships can use around 50 MW of electricity, so that would require an awful lot of fuel cells!
Tell Greta lol. made me smile that.
Absolutely brilliant news!
Someone please tell Greta!
They plan to start testing the system in 2024....hopefully the AFC system will be in operation long before that ...
It says in the article they are planning for 2 megawatts from the fuel cell to deliver 60/70% of the power.
A nice thought indeed. I wonder how many KW would be required to run a ship (obviously dependent on size / weight etc) would it be 160Kw or a multiple thereof ? I assume a back-up set of FCs would also be required.
Micks1985,
In the 2016 hydrogen technology conference in South Korea AFC Energy and Norwegian Corner exhibited next to each other, tables 41/47.
AFC have often pushed a South Korean future connection.
A huge stretch to put a AFC fuel cell into a conection with the Norwegian ship, but ammonia is also mentioned in the article.
We can but dreammmmm.
You're right I think and a little snippet rns would help matters
not sure about the links but my thoughts in general are that now funding is sorted for the immediate future, i.e next 5-6 months that was holding the SP back, the 1st placing has not sunk the SP so i don't think the one on the 28th will either, full steam ahead now ?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/21/uk-government-increases-funding-for-electric-charge-points.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/24/equinor-to-run-ship-fitted-with-ammonia-fuel-cells.html