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Well, at least they are building one now, a few weeks ago they didn't think it was worthwhile......until they got some sort nterest!!? You couldn't make this stuff up (:-0
I would like to see faster progress. It doesn't mean that they (AFC) are not working to achieve further sales. I check every morning for the RNS we are all waiting for. It will come. AB said as much in one of the later RNS's.
They have raised £31.6m and are now not only recruiting for staff to increase manufacturing capacity, they will be placing orders for materials and components, physical manufacturing and number of systems (sold or not) in anticipation of sales for immediate delivery, working on Alkamem, working on the solid system and gaining CE approval.
I wish they notified the market with progress updates, but they don't. Having invested in other companies that do its possible to see a marked improvement in sentiment when there is sufficient transparency.
Frustrating as it may be AFC have always been this way and need to improve but it does not change the fact that they will be working very hard in the background to manufacture multiple 20kw and 160kw systems including that for Acciona for deployment in the next 12 to 24 months. Why build them if they have no place for them to go. I expect that there are systems being designed that include the use of solar, batteries and electolysers which must go through more than just a nod and a wink from procurement.
Obviously all holders being human (I hope) want to see positive comments on a company that they have invested in to make them money, as it causes the lifting of mood and hope, especially when the SP is rising..
The opposite seeing negative comments, is something no one wants to see as it can depress, especially on a dipping SP.
That is why so called negative posts are more likely criticised than positive posts.
Uplifting or/and depressing posts are often based on what is actually happening or not happening, this is not always relating to ramping/de-ramping.
To those who are quite relaxed and accepting that there are no orders, (OK accepting the Extreme -E) that's fine, but for those such as myself, a very long term holder (since the float) I am definitely disappointed that we have no other orders for the EV charger from that long list of customers that according to the impression given by AB were clambering to buy.
I am still invested in the company. as I still think they will be a sucess, but that does not negate my thoughts on often agreeing with those who feel that progress could be a lot faster.
You don’t know that asanthius and neither does Daz. Yes, Afc are low on details and that leads to made up assumptions by us PIs but they’re that, assumptions only so they are NOT fact !
We don’t know what the Acciona deal will bring on the back of it and the advertising as a result of Extreme E will be world wide.
Where have I mislead ?
Yet you say Acciona have taken an order ?
Think it’s you misleading
Rubbish Southernhay. What Daz has said is based in fact. You might not like it, and nor do I, but it is a valid viewpoint. Was my post below deramping as I agreed with him. Or ramping as I then extolled the solid cell and confirmed my support for AFC.
Or maybe just an honest post from an honest person?
Daz - what a load of misleading tosh. AFC could take you to court for such comments! You know Acciona have taken an order which could lead to many orders if they’re happy. DeNora remain actively involved and of course we have the extreme E order that will showcase EV charging. Adam Bond has also suggested that we should not be impatient when expecting EV charging contracts to pop up quickly, especially during the current pandemic. Please refrain from your misleading and constantly negative comments. You’re clearly deramping.
I'm afraid I have to agree with Daz, but ONLY where the liquid cell is concerned. Neither Acciona (which is a trial - no revenue), nor Extreme E (where AFC s involvement helps EE push their "green" credentials) will generate a penny in profit. If liquid EV was going to work for AFC then we would be much further advanced. There may be a small role in genset replacement until the S comes along.
The S and Alkamem is where it will be at. This is why I remain fully invested. But it is still blind faith in a company that is entirely unproven as a commercial entity
Don’t you think over those 10 months they could have listened to what customers wanted so that by the time of the launch they had a product customers wanted to buy rather than give a lame excuse that they want the larger model ?
17th Jan 2019 RNS
The demonstration of the CH2ARGE unit took place at Dunsfold Aerodrome, home to the BBC Top Gear test track, and saw a BMW i8 as the first ever car to be recharged with power generated by a hydrogen fuel cell. The innovation takes place after 10 years of fuel cell research development at the AFC Energy laboratories.
Having now demonstrated proof-of-concept of the CH2ARGETM prototype, AFC Energy is preparing for the commercialisation of fuel cell-based EV Charge solutions to meet the growing demand for environmentally friendly power in the EV market. Traditional charging causes pollution with electricity from fossil fuels, but AFC Energy's CH2ARGE system can be 100% emissions free.
You would think that a year and a half later after the unveiling that they’d be a little more interest.
What list would that be Daz, the one that a serial negative poster collated perhaps.
The EV charger has already been showcased and nobody wants it 7 months after the 2nd launch.
The list of reasons why there’s no sales grows longer by the day.
If the liquid cell is no good why are there collaborations with a multi national construction company and extreme e to showcase the offerings to a worldwide audience.
AFC's solid state fuel cell should beat it to market.
Our liquid cell is going nowhere fast; our solid cell will be our salvation.
But 2026 for automotive applications
Solid Power Thinks It Can Start Selling All-Solid-State Batteries In 2021....
https://insideevs.com/news/438664/solid-power-all-solid-state-batteries-2021/