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Bmac re: 13thmonkey, re your...Some people here are suggesting 2.5 x domestic rates for afc, which when compared to some roadside options is reasonable, article below suggests 3x is what you might pay.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/electric-vehicle-charging-%E2%80%93-what-does-it-really-cost/n16833...
Wasn't it you and your pack of back-patting supporters that lambasted me with abuse when I highlighted the cost of an AFC charge ? More wake-up time to come. Bmac
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2.5 domestic rates (at night when i'm not driving) is cheaper the 3x roadside rates, so AFC are therefore cheaper than some, more expensive than others, but better than having nothing at all.
Any lambasting was therefore correct.
Mitch he'll be on a CFD that he took out at the time he arrived and has been caught out. No option but to bombard the boards in different IDs to try and get back to profit.
Bsac, I'll answer when you tell me how much you pay at home for your electricity as you keep dodging the question
MitchConnor, re your .....BMAC, so your now threatening to just spam negatively skewed post into the board?
Is the loglorry1 thread so embarrassingly informative and painful that the usually overly euphoric hyper clan on this board are unable to make any response to it? Does it needs reposting a few times in order to get it through? Bmac
You’ve still not stated your interest in AFC....... what is it? Your posting volume shows that it’s a matter of great importance, think you’ve posted more in a month than I have in 4 years.....
My interest is that I have a couple of hundred thousand shares or so that I’m hoping at some point in the future will be worth more than they are now......
So again BMAC, what is your interest? What could possibly compel you to spend the time posting on this board that you do?
Reported this post for staying assumptions as fact
chippyjo, re your...Also Bsac, the carbon produced at manufacture can be captured, how do you think the bubbles in your fizzy pop get there?
The question you have avoided answering is .....exactly what is AFC doing with those' little bubbles'? And what about the other salient parts of the loglorry1 post that you haven't dealt with. Bmac
Also Bsac, the carbon produced at manufacture can be captured, how do you think the bubbles in your fizzy pop get there?
Using motor vehicles powered by fossil based fuels its impossible to capture.
Many of the places installing the AFC EV charger will be fleet owners. They are not interested how much public charging is at the nearest rapid charger which is 50 miles away and is only one or two charge points. What they want is to be able to charge their own fleet of 100 EV's at a fast enough rate to do their work.
People charging at the nearest rapid charger within 50 miles will be happy to pay 30p per kW. At a low 4 miles per kW (an i3 gets over 5) with an average price of £5.85 per gallon, that works out at the equivalent cost of 78 miles per gallon.
Bmac will make up all kinds of irrelevant fake statements to create doubt and negativity where none exists. Ignore the con man.
H2 from electrolysis and then convert all using green leckie.
The process is getting greener because 88% of the worlds food comes curtesy of ammonia production for fertiliser.
so ..my question.would it be a future possibility cars have a tank of ammonia and a fuel cell ?
Bsac, wrong again, how much are you paying for your electricity at home? My tariff is 18p unit so roughly 1.7 times.
But as I said 80% cant charge at home in villages and major cities as you don't have the parking.
the long term solution to places like London is to have a battery where you change the electrolyte .
chippyjo, re your.....All based on Amonia cracked on site.
What's your response to loglorry1 in relation to ammonia cracking and its associated environmental damage? Bmac
BMAC, so your now threatening to just spam negatively skewed post into the board? Every on this board is here because they have a vested interest In the AFC share price and more importantly it’s movement. What’s your interest? Surely you don’t expect us to believe you are just performing a public service? There is obvious interest in AFC’s off grid or complimentary to the grid charging solution, stop over simplifying the issues around grid load and local distribution.
chippyjo, you highlighted that the charge from AFC is a third less than current fast charging on the motorway network.
Wrong again chippyjo.....What I highlighted is.... charging from an AFC EV Charger is circa 2.5x the cost of a home charge. You need to watch my lips. What is your response to the loglorry1 post? Bmac
If you look at the table in the What Car article (thanks BMAC) it looks like 30p per kw is the norm for faster charging so on that basis I assume the AFC solution can just about compete with the on grid service providers.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/electric-vehicle-charging-%E2%80%93-what-does-it-really-cost/n16833
Is the loglorry1 thread so embarrassingly informative and painful that the usually overly euphoric hyper clan on this board are unable to make any response to it? Does it needs reposting a few times in order to get it through? Bmac
Yes Bsac you highlighted that the charge from AFC is a third less than current fast charging on the motorway network.
While walking back from the pub last night, approximately 80% of the cars would not be able to charge at home. I you look at London I'm sure it would be an equal or higher figure.
13thmonkey, re your...Some people here are suggesting 2.5 x domestic rates for afc, which when compared to some roadside options is reasonable, article below suggests 3x is what you might pay.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/electric-vehicle-charging-%E2%80%93-what-does-it-really-cost/n16833...
Wasn't it you and your pack of back-patting supporters that lambasted me with abuse when I highlighted the cost of an AFC charge ? More wake-up time to come. Bmac
Pay a couple of million pounds for cabling and possibly a new substation, or save a lot of money and get an AFC EV charger, that is the choice for many fleet operators, supermarkets, car parks, local authorities, etc.
AFC stated 30p kw which is 15p less than he average fast charge cost at on the road and 1.7 times my home electric tariff.
All based on Amonia cracked on site.
Tatty, that's only a fraction of the picture, in many places the cost to upgrade the local grid means it is a stand alone charger or nothing.
Some people here are suggesting 2.5 x domestic rates for afc, which when compared to some roadside options is reasonable, article below suggests 3x is what you might pay. https://www.whatcar.com/news/electric-vehicle-charging-%E2%80%93-what-does-it-really-cost/n16833
But if you need a connection, and the grid says no, then what other choice do you have.
In the press release on AFC website I can’t see any mention of relative costs of this system to the end user compared to on grid EV charging? Has this been highlighted elsewhere?