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So we just forget all the vids on you tube showing how impressive FSD can be? Some showing no intervention at tall.
This is currently Beta test software with only a few thousands testing it. It is not possible for the millions of fatalities he talked about.
billy "hat all software is hackable"
I think the main point he was making wasn't about hacking , it was that from the sample videos he had seen, FSD would n't even get a driver's licence because it makes so many mistakes. ( most of which could be fatal )
Yes, I actually thought the interviewer should have picked on his quote , that all software is hackable. Then asked him about the software Green hills that he sells for the USAF bomber aircraft.
Hi Billy,
Thanks I watched that. I thought he's making some perfectly reasonable points. IMHO you are dismissing his point of view too easily.
Hi EK.
At 4.10min Morgan asked Are you a competitor. and he does some "Umm, err, umm " . Obviously trying to think how do i answer this? Funny.
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/01/18/heres-what-dan-odowd-believes-is-wrong-with-teslas-self-driving-software.html
billy "did you see his interview with Wall street reporter on tv"
can you post the link billy
Hi, did you see his interview with Wall street reporter on tv
Brilliant (as in laughable), fumbling answers to direct questions about his mainstream automotive involvement.
and then actually admitting Green Hill software is in competition. What a clown.
Eileen
Having replied to the safety issue, you also added ''And as ever you then try to discredit the person make the argument, rather than addressing the issue''
The one trying to do the discrediting was O'Dowd he was trying to discredit Tesla, incidentally the ''evidence'' he used was 11 Youtube posts of people driving Teslas with FSD engaged lasting 7 hours or so.
Also he did not declare his considerable conflict of interest namely supplying driver assist software and systems to rival auto-makers.
Eileen
''Dog, are you deliberately missing the most important point. If you want to take the risk of FSD beta , that's would be fine if it was only you at risk, but why should you be able to subject other road user's to this hazard if it is not fully tested.''
As I am sure you know Teslas are the safest cars on the road, in the USA an accident occurs on average about every 450,000 miles, in a Tesla with FSD engaged an accident occurs about every 4,500,000 so nine times safer. So not perfect but it never will be (even if all cars are autonomous) because having an accident does not necessarily mean it is your fault there will be exogenous events like trees being blown down and black ice and horse riders unable to control their horse etc.
Dog "First of all Tesla FSD system is a Beta system it is made abundantly clear that the system is a driver assist system"
Dog, are you deliberately missing the most important point. If you want to take the risk of FSD beta , that's would be fine if it was only you at risk, but why should you be able to subject other road user's to this hazard if it is not fully tested. If you crash and fatally injure a pedestrian, how is it an argument "hey Tesla stated it was beta, i'm not to blame, sod the guy who got injured, this is for the good of mankind"
And as ever you then try to discredit the person make the argument, rather than addressing the issue
Pure FUD.
The NY Times should check content, and not publish this. Shocking false information by O Dowd.
, and his company is a software competitor!!
Eileen
First of all Tesla FSD system is a Beta system it is made abundantly clear that the system is a driver assist system. Tesla do not say that FSD will drive the vehicle without the driver being ready to take over at all times.
I found this about the story;
''O’Dowd is so committed to the project that he is offering a $10,000 reward “to the first person who can name another commercial product from a Fortune 500 company that has a critical malfunction every 8 minutes.”
On the surface the whole thing looks like a desperate attempt to be seen as relevant through a series of lies, half-truths, and deceptions, but perhaps the biggest deception is from the founder himself, Dan O’Dowd.
According to O’Dowd’s LinkedIn profile, not only is he the founder of The Dawn Project, but also the current CEO of Green Hills Software. A quick review of the company’s website reveals they provide software that helps “automotive companies achieve the safety and security necessary for production-level ADAS [Advanced Driver Assist Systems] and automated driving systems.” The company most recently worked with BMW and their new iX all-electric sports utility vehicle according to a news release on January 5, 2022 published on their website.
Why is someone who provides software to competing automakers so keen on taking down Tesla’s Full Self-Driving?''
Well I would say it is because he is being paid to do by large premium brand automotive OEM fighting a rear- guard action to try and stem the loss of sales to Tesla.
"In a full-page ad in this Sunday's @nytimes, the Dawn Project says $TSLA FSD is “the worst software ever sold by a Fortune 500 company" & offers $10K to anyone who can find a worse product. "
https://twitter.com/RealDanODowd
Dan O'Dowd @RealDanODowd
Today I placed a full-page advertisement in the @nytimes , campaigning to ban @Tesla full self-driving from our roads. @RealDawnProjectis organizing the opposition to @ElonMusk’s ill-advised full self-driving robot car experiment
#FSDDelendaEst #DawnProject
Just saying.....