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Share Price: 0.34Bid: 0.3375Ask: 0.34Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on Bank Ireland
Spread: 0.0025Spread as %: 0.74%Open: 0.3325High: 0.345Low: 0.3325Yesterday’s Close: 0.34

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RE: Really
Fri 13:20
im afraid i am firmly in the camp of looking out 12-18months, 3 or 5 years is just impossible for me, too many moving parts. Even right now with the "all sorts" running Greece it would be hard to look past June.
I didnt see the stuff you referenced from the SBP but Boucher was asked about divs today and he said the focus was the Prefs and then they would see where they were. I think with a 0.5bn recurring and growing and e0.5bn with some limited time-frame contribution it will be a bit like running up a down escalator for a few years.Growing type 1 by 40% compound for 3 years would be a hell of an achievement, even 20% compound would be excellent.

By best guess is this sp will be an arm wrestle between those that look out 12-18 months and look at relative value and those that have a longer more patient perspective. Who will win over the next 12 months?
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RE: Really
Fri 12:55
What i was saying was that your type 1 growth will replace any exceptional items over a 4 or 5 year time frame. this will continue to leave BOI producing excellent profits over the long term. Hypothetically, if they were to grow the type1 by the 40% annually, they would be at 1.1billion in 3 years time. If they grew it by 20% per year, they would get to a billion in the 5 years.

on dividends, you may not have seen this post i wrote last sunday
" they did focus on the possibility of a dividend in 2016 though. they quote Deutsche bank as saying the bank will unveil a new set of targets shortly that will include dividends in 2016 paid out based on 20% of 2015 profits. then 40% of 2016 profits paid in 2017and 50% 2017 profits paid in 2018." its from last sundays business post.
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Fri 12:39
We will need it, despite the magnificent results over the last year, the SP is over 5% lower than a year ago. And I have not seen any useful analys here as to why!
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RE: Freedom
Fri 12:38
Very nice radar.

Just a clarification about the heavy "yolk"?

Would that be nervous folk toiling under the strain of preparing a very large omlette but the eggs (and their dreams) keep breaking before they get to the castle kitchen?

Or is it just an issue of enormous chickens or ostriches?

In any case, the investment message is not to put all your eggs in one basket, 'cos like, if they're big and they break....

I love the ending. Like I say, sit back and see you in February 2017 for FY2016 results.
In the meantime, frollick and search for the meaning of life.
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Davy Analysis: 2 of 2
Fri 12:37
Defaulted loans reduce by €2.8bn to €14.3bn
Defaulted loans have reduced to €14.3bn (16% of loans with all portfolios bar land and development showing an improvement), down by 16% over the year. Notwithstanding the ROI mortgage provision reversal, which reflects changes to the mortgage collective provisioning assumptions, overall provisions coverage is 52%, up from 48%. The bank’s total impairment charge reduced by c.€1.2b relative to 2013, reflecting lower customer loan impairment charges of c.€840m, the ROI mortgage provision reversal of €280m and the reversal of an impairment charge previously taken on NAMA subordinated debt of €70m.

Outlook statement is positive
Highlights of 2014 include the bank’s strong lending performance, its return to profitability, improved asset quality and the pace of capital generation.

In a positive outlook statement, the bank states that it is well positioned for sustainable profitable growth in 2015 and beyond.

We will review our forecasts after this morning’s briefing where we should get further insight into the key trends, including loan repayment/redemption dynamics.

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Davy Analysis: 1 of 2
Fri 12:37
Davy View
Further strong capital generation in Q4, resulting in a FY increase of 300bps in fully loaded CET1, is the standout feature of the FY 2014 results, providing additional reassurance regarding preference share redemption in H1 2016. Other notable features include improved new lending flows and NPL resolution within provisioning. In particular, the strong momentum in new lending has improved the prospect of net loan book stabilisation during the current year. Underlying PBT of €921m in 2014 (comparable Davy forecast €744m) represents a welcome turnaround from a loss of €564m in 2013, helped by a bigger-than-expected €280m Irish mortgage impairment reversal.

Capital generation is a key feature
The bank continued to generate capital apace in Q4, adding a further 100bps. This took the increase in its transitional Basel III CET1 ratio in FY 2014 to 250bps, raising it to 14.8% with a corresponding 300bps increase in its fully loaded CET1 ratio, excluding the €1.3bn preference shares, to 9.3%. The improvement reflects attributable profits, a modest reduction in RWAs and a more efficient capital structure in the bank’s New Ireland life assurance subsidiary. The appropriate level of capital required by the bank under the SSM has not been clarified but it has reiterated that it expects to maintain a buffer above a CET1 ratio of 10%, on a transitional basis, and that it intends to de-recognise the €1.3bn preference shares between January and July 2016. It notes that this provides for a “meaningful buffer” over regulatory requirements.

New lending rises >50% to €10bn; stability in sight
New loans of €10bn reflect a pick-up from €4.3bn in H1 to €5.7bn in H2. This includes €5.7bn Irish and €4.7bn other lending. Excluding Irish tracker mortgages, Irish lending is running ahead of repayments and redemptions. In the UK, new mortgage lending more than doubled to €2.3bn. However, overall repayments and redemptions leave the net book at €82bn, in line with our forecasts (for instance Irish trackers reduced by €1.5bn and the UK business banking book, which is in run-down, reduced by €1bn – although the bank expects this to slow in 2015) and we await further insight into this dynamic at this morning’s briefing.

NIM hits 222bps in Q4 and is seen as sustainable
The improvement in the margin to an average of 2.11% in FY 2014 (versus 1.84% in 2013) reflects further reductions in funding costs and the positive impact of new lending volumes, partly offset by the impact of ECB rate cuts. The bank expects the margin to grow further, albeit at a more modest pace than in 2014. This implies upside to our current FY 2015 margin forecast of 2.15% (ex ELG fees) with our FY 2016 estimate of 2.24% looking achievable a year earlier.
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Lot of
Fri 12:33
Resistance at 0.34 let's hope the US Market drives the SP upwards after 2pm
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Fri 11:28
Your in the boozer early Sir!!
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Fri 11:25
This world is full of nervous folk
Carrying the heavy yolk
Years of strain and broken dreams
Life hardly the fun it seems

One cent up and one cent down
Folk casing thrills end up as clowns
This is called the gamblers way
Find green fields and save the hay

Stand among stone walls of old
If only stones turned into gold
Riches would be everywhere
Simple nature would despair

Do not be fooled by the material way
Make a plan and have your say
Find a road to leave the crowd
Free your mind and then be proud

Dance like ghosts under skies of powerful blue
Hear the still water rush at you
Free a rabbit from a snare
Turn off the screen you must dare

To find freedom.
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... results
Fri 11:19
... a 'Punch'. cigar for me .. !

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