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Share Price: 0.313Bid: 0.312Ask: 0.313Change: 0.017 (+5.74%)Riser - Bank Ireland
Spread: 0.001Spread as %: 0.32%Open: 0.305High: 0.316Low: 0.301Yesterday’s Close: 0.296


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Senator1
Posts: 295
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RE: Shorting
Thu 15:44
i thought it only naked short selling in Germany & presumably same in Spain. thats fair enough but banning short sales makes no sense to me
 
irish_bob
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RE: Shorting
Thu 15:12
if shorting is illegal in germany , then i dont know what explains the dismal performance of bmw share price this past three or four months , the company is in very good shape overall and had terrific numbers last quater
aclaw
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Shorting
Thu 14:49
...shorting is illegal in Germany & Spain; don't know why they allow this in Ireland; it is detrimental to the small investor; many times what I have seen are large uncrossed trades between one account and another account; whre both may well be owned by the same trader and no $$ is at play; no loss..in the meantime the large traders are sitting on their holdings and trying to buy more stock on the cheap; if the govt's sells their 14% share it would just get worse; it would become a giant financial orgy;
irish_bob
Posts: 359
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RE: Shorting
Thu 14:44
ive been shorting the euro v the dollar for two months now through an etf , is that also wrong ?
Senator1
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RE: Shorting
Thu 14:17
shorting is a very tough game as your losses are theoretically unlimited unlike for the longs. I have a lot of respect for those that short legally, they have b-lls of steel & generally are very knowlegable, they have to be
Agritrader
Posts: 59
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Opinion:Buy
Price:0.30
Ameriprise Financial Inc - NYSE-AMP
Thu 14:17
Now owns greater than 3% of Bank of Ireland. They recently acquired over a threshold that had to be made public. !!
Senator1
Posts: 295
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RE: Shorting
Thu 14:05
I dont agree. If any participant thinks a share is overvalued they have every right to execute a covered short exactly the same as someone who thinks its undervalued has the right to buy. You cant restrict those who think its overvalued, the market needs all legally executed fair views. It is not the case that shorting=manipulation. Its a legitimate way to back your view, nothing more. An efficient market needs shorts. on what basis would you bring a covered short to court? Because he thinks a share is overvalued? Should we bring buyers to court for daring to think its undervalued?
martin1
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Shorting
Thu 13:52
Can never make my mind up which is the worst ,the institutions that lend the shares for fee or hedge funds that hire them out they say its legal .Banks said the same some time back about P P I now we know dif Was shorting ever tested in courts
What i do know if share is shorted,price has to be manipulated
irish_bob
Posts: 359
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Opinion:Buy
Price:0.30
price action
Thu 13:41
picked up some shares at .291 , glad to sold some a fortnight ago @ .308 although for a week it looked like a foolish trade

will sell todays buy after a 10% buy as i have enough permanent stock
Senator1
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RE: Deliberate Manipulation
Thu 12:52
"selling the news" is very common as the market is a discounting mechanism & is looking 6-12 months out. its generally politics that market reacts to spot.



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