very true naks , vog has said it is a very sencitive about how much each customer has to pay , maybe pay so much then dicounted the more they use , saying that a year ago before Guinness and Socavor were connected vog did say on the website all customer have had to pay the full 16k per scuff , Socavor being the biggest user i would think get some sort of discount but that is something we wont know .
I can't see that VOG are giving it away too cheaply for the following reasons. There are cleverer people than me here who might be able to work out the following. We have known for ages that 4.2 scuffs is group break even (I think that correct?). If VOG were giving the gas away cheaply then wouldn't that figure of 4.2 now be 5 for example? Also, the clever amongst us could possibly work out the running costs of VOG and how much we are making at 4.2 scuffs to break even. Surely that way we might take a good close guess at the cost per scuff currently? Or is that my simple brain not seeing it clearly?
Quality Rodlin spot on. Voger we have already been told that individual deals would not be disclosed as it effects on going negotiations with other companies and also it will take sometime to get our initial outlay back on the gensets, but i think since then that whole arrange is totally different bonds and other financing and energyst new deal done also.
Voger. One last point. You are full of contradictions. You do nothing but complain about KF's abilities and past performance. You complain about the lack of information and yet you continue to buy shares in the company you appear to have no faith in. So it's hardly surprising you come in for a bit of stick on this BB. However, there is no malice as far as I'm concerned. I just enjoy pointing out the odd home goal. ATB.
why is it that if you want to know whats going on you are told to sell or called names? i would like to know the answers to lots of things, do you really think i would get an answer of anyone in the office? what are these bb for if not to bounce thing of people. its all great as long as you are positive and close your eyes to all the questions that really matter. is it really to much to be told how much a scuff we are getting for the genset users? people keep saying it will be less than thermal? well how much less as we are paying for transport renal bonds and the fitting costs. this is not cheap, so why should they be getting the gas cheaper. if all we had to do is connect the pipe and they pay the rest yes i agree it should be cheaper. we are not tescos,selling one product as a loss leader to get them to buy other products. if we are making a good return on gensets why not say? i would be shouting to my investors this fact, no silence means only one thing, we are giving the stuff away to get the scuffs up. big power is completely different. i'm talking about a genset that is using very little gas
" how can you invest in something when you don't know what the mark up is", Voger why are you asking the board when it is something you should have asked yourself . There would be an easy solution to your dilemma which has been pointed out before .
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