I think you made some very valid points in your post at 7.01 a.m. What sporting events do rbs sponsor though and are we not making progress in other sports having had our first Wimbledon male winner since Fred Perry only last year and our medals tally and lofty table position at the last two Olympics has been impressive. Certainly think the likes of Sir Chris Hoy is a better role model for youngsters anyway than some of the greedy famous footballers around these days.
And your point about computer football taking over is one Jings is living testament to. Incidently Jings, I was making that very point about the Celtic European Cup winning squad on another bb a few days ago. When I checked into it, it seemed as though all 15 of them - except the late "faither" - were born within a 10 mile radius of Parkhead. We certainly had more maternity hospitals around then and yet there were a lot of home births but still quite an achievement as was that of the late Bobby Moore and his team mates a year later. Went to see We're on our Way to Lisbon in EK recently. Very well acted but there were a lot of sticks and grey hair in the audience.
I'm off to spend my winnings from the tsb flotation maybe on some tickets for some of the Commonwealth Games events in Glasgow and I'll buy the kids a cone when we go to see the Queen's Baton passing. Have a good weekend and remember there's more to share life than rbs - most of the time.
You see the situation for what it is and that is good to see...
Some are to emotionally involved with football and many a disagreement results from not excepting the basic facts.. ...and the results achieved or not .It is only a game and should be treated as so... End of..
Many a radio football program goes into to much dept about ... was a foul a penalty or not.. Or what ever.. Is it really that important .. It is history after the match... Nothing can be changed .. And the same will happen time and time again...
Football is what it is and grown to a high stress level ... To win or servival depending on where you are in the UK league..and the amount of debt the club has.
It was me that said RBS is range bound 335 to 345 .. And still appears to be so at the moment... with markets so high a drop maybe more likely than a big rise.. . 355 will come at some point for you.. But do not be focused on 355 when 354 or 353 may well give you a good return.. Pays to be flexible and capitalise on sudden movements..
The writing was on the wall when we couldn't even beat Honduras or Ecuador. Dunno why anyone thought we were going to beat Italy or Uruguay, let alone any really good teams like Germany, Brazil, Holland, Argentina etc.
I get your point and is a valid one .. They played well to the point of getting a draw at one point in the match..
That said many missed chances by rooney,and gerrard giving Suarez a good chance to score .. Which he did.. Two supposed great England players not up to the mark...Rooney had a sitter of a goal.. A simple tap in.. But a goal just the same... And that was all they could achieve...
The bottom line is you are either better by beating your opponent or you are not.... That is the point of the game... After Englands first 2 games they have lost both.. The worst start possible...and with yet another new manager.to add to the list.
So is it the countless mangers or the countless players over the past 48 years or a combination of both ... We still cannot get further than the quarter finals..and it is our national sport... The 1966 win was well fought and the players were as one... A one off special team it would seem now... Like the Beatles never to be equalled .. All in the same era.. Times were different then...
Time may well change things in the future but in the mean time ... We are not making much progress.in ability in this World Cup.
The press again today are saying how humiliating they have performed ...the same has been said of many past World Cup reports ... As said it is like Groundhog Day.. History repeating it self every 4 years...
Frustrating .. But nobody it seems has the answer to play better...or the reason for not doing so... Maybe oneday they will rise again...
They're not lame excuses, I was merely addressing the post by Northy that said, and I quote: "England well beaten". To me that comment suggests England took a pummeling, and that was not the case. I am not making 'lame' excuses, merely reinforcing my argument that England were not 'well beaten'. Do you understand that concept?
Perhaps you should read my earlier posts then you would see that I am English. I also did watch the game and saw England loose possession so easily, the passing was far poorer than it was against Italy and we missed goal scoring chances that other sides put away and we also failed to make any impression with free kicks or corners. Not sure which game you were watching but I wish our side had a clinical finisher like all the top sides have. Played 2 matches, scored 2 goals, let in 4.
I have to agree with your comments. When my team was rubbish (Man City who I have supported since 1970) I used to enjoy the England matches, even cheering Rooney when he played for his country. Now I doubt more than two a maximum of 3 of the England team would make City's first team. The National side are just full of mediocre players and managed by a mediocre manager who has only got the job because the old farts who run the FA think he is a jolly decent chap who will not rock the boat. I looked at the odds of England winning it this year. Amazingly they are only 80-1 they must be having a laugh. It is a pity the bookies do not offer odds against them winning it because it would be a dead cert !! I will still watch a few of the matches but there is no way i will organise my life round it over the remaining 3 weeks. On topic as one poster has said it looks like it is stuck in the 335- 345 range. just hope it takes a turn upwards to my bail out figure of £3.55 but fear I have a long wait.
You have mentioned many of what could have been... and you say we had them on the ropes... sadly they are more of the same lame excuses ... that have been stated over the past 48 years... Rooney could have scored 3 you say ... well he didn`t did he.. that's the whole point ..that is why we lost......don`t score...don`t win...Basic Logic.
The fact remains is that they lost yet AGAIN....
Remember .excuses for losing .. do not win games... or we would be WORLD CHAMPIONS.
I like many have to except that we are not good enough......and they proved it yet again last night. The worst World Cup start since 1958 so they say...... The facts speak for themselves.....
Meanwhile enjoy the rest of the world cup in your own way... I just enjoy a good game ..and a chance to see the best in the world... regardless of an England exit.
You say England well beaten - did you actually watch the match cause that's not my interpretation about it. We had them on the ropes for much of it, Rooney could have scored three, their captain should have been sent off for a second bookable. Our possession was something like 65% to their 35%.
You must be an England hater? Scottish by any chance? Saw one in the Uruguay stand at one point wearing kilt etc. Long way to travel to demonstrate your depth of feeling. What's wrong with people?
It is strange how many flags are bought and put up for the England team ... When Realisticly their chance of winning are remote ... Anything to do with football creates money it seems, some obviously are a waste of money, but spent regardless...
As Hodgson says we came with high hopes but did not deliver... The simular line stated by several past managers.. .. The England mangers job appears to be one of the best paid jobs for failure that one can imagine.. Shows the folly of football and the amount of money it generates from the public.regardless of income..
Football has little affect on our lives, in reality in makes many poorer.. . And even makes some grown up and younger end up in floods of tears...
As the past England footballer .. Greaves said..... Football, it's a Funny Old Game... .. Sums the game up very well to me.. Many fans take the game far to seriously and get to emotional for something that has little benefit on their life.
One must get things in perspective ... It is just a game...but some need to have something to be part of...and follow... And become part of their lives... And culture... Like many women follow soaps on TV.. Once hooked must follow it for countless years
All good fun... And cost affective for non football subscribers to sky that just watch BBC MOT on Saturday night like me...
Meanwhile another England post mortem will continue untill the coffin on this campian is nailed shut... Then the usual sack the manager waffle starts again... Every 4 years the simular headlines roll out .. After the past 48 years and 12 past World Cups we now look forward to doing it all again in 4 years time... Off to get the beers in ..
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