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Share Price: 59.50Bid: 59.00Ask: 59.50Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on Prem Foods
Spread: 0.50Spread as %: 0.85%Open: 60.50High: 60.75Low: 57.25Yesterday’s Close: 59.50


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Beaglie
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Price:130.25
Maybe a different approach...?
21 Nov '13
New subscriber - with Bread div of RHM over 15 years. Simple prob (and has been for years) is over capacity in Bread industry. There was an internal debate some 10 years ago suggesting creation of 2 sep businesses - Hovis (premium and heavily funded marketing to create differentiation) and Private Label (either keeping or ditching tired Mothers Pride brand) - low cost products and minimum investment support.
If PF looked at this they might offer more attractive options to outside interests?
 
2reincarnated
Posts: 1,267
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Price:133.00
You never know
21 Nov '13
There may be a twist to the whole PF ''saga'' There are foreign companies looking for top UK brands. OK Hovis has problems, but PF has some solid brands. Check this story out

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/80554fac-52a6-11e3-8586-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2lHrh1WDW
zine
Posts: 601
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Price:132.50
Jammie Dogers
21 Nov '13
If Jammie dodgers were worth{including wagon wheels of course] £335 mill i guess pfd brands must be worth something Would all there brands add up to the debts plus pension fund deficit.? Is it true that the pension funds have first call on any assets if a company becomes insolvent is that why the banks have not foreclosed yet and continue to bleed them dry.Perhaps the only solution is to try and just run Hovis down a little bit a t a time .
2reincarnated
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Price:134.00
Dotnova
21 Nov '13
Just because Hovis hasn't been sold to date, it doesn't mean it will never be sold!!! You asked for a fact, well if PF was in so much trouble, like many other companies have been, then it would have had an ''emergency rights issue'' to strengthen the balance sheet. Fact it will not have one until 2015!!!
Dotnova
Posts: 164
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Price:133.00
2reincarnated
20 Nov '13
oh dear, another candidate for the Fernie Farm. You said Hovis had been restructured to become stand alone and leaner?! You will probably still be hanging up a stocking at Xmas! Co-op pulled out due to poor quality, they were forced to close plants, and Bimbo took a look and scarpered! Hovis loss making, employs 40% of PFD staff and is for sale...with no buyers! Let's see some facts coming from your foul mouth!
queserasera
Posts: 1,615
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Price:134.75
Dotnova
20 Nov '13
Good for Warbies!! I have just had a grated cheese "warbie sarnie" but I could not taste the cheese. I looked down and my plate was full of cheese. It had fell through the holes in the bread. Guess thats how Warbies afford to spend so much on the bakeries hey!!
Dhobywaller
Posts: 6
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Price:135.00
Hovis
20 Nov '13
I have been with Hovis, Mothers Pride, British Bakeries for almost 31 tears now. Hovis is a big thorn in the side for Premier foods... the share price is being held down by Hovis, Hovis has no future with Premier, Premier has to somehow get rid to look after the share holders and the share price. It has been rumoured amongst the ranks that a Mexican company called "Bimbo" had an interest to get a foot hold into Europe, was looking to buy Hovis but has pulled out, no longer has an interest. Where is there to go for Hovis?
Dotnova
Posts: 164
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Price:135.00
Ques
20 Nov '13
Pfd did yo-yo from 60-180p on the back of Hovis sale rumours and conversely GD saying no sale! GD now faces the reality of MC - Hovis needs to go....but no-one will buy. Pfd share price has gone from £2.80 TO 13p like for like over the last few years. It overpayed for RHM, did little due diligence and bought a pup. The Hovis sites were old then, but PFD invested nothing due to cash flow - Warbies have spent £200m+ on bakeries in last 5 years... yes a Warbies sarnie for me!!
MrB386
Posts: 702
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Price:139.00
Ques
15 Nov '13
Yes in very happy. Only regret is I sold BP to buy in. Wish I'd sold Tesco!! May even see £1.40 today.
Mike10613
Posts: 10
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Price:138.00
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Mr Kipling
15 Nov '13
Just thought I would mention Mr Kipling mince pies. If a bad summer is negative can a posh mince pie at Christmas help the share price?



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