Somewhere deep underground a bunch of nationalistic cronies reinforce each others view of the evils that reside the other side of the English Channel. Every now and then they emerge en-bloc to curse us with their company and espouse their odious views. With slow growth reported today in Europe following yesterdays good news in Britain they are out in force.
There are so many benefits for us all in being part of one community and I have no intention of listing them because people old people rarely change their views, and those who believe there are benefits to Britain in leaving the EU are very old. They are stuck in the stone age. Thank goodness that a couple more decades will see their departure from this world. through natural cause.
One thing I, and most sane people value is seventy years of peace in Europe, if nothing else the community is a very influential factor in maintaining that peace.
So please return to your tunnels, leave us Europeans to enjoy the freedoms that being a European gives us gives us!
Well said. If the uk was to leave the EU does anyone think bmw merc Renault Peugeot and the likes would stop selling here. Not a chance. Itsalotto l dont remember voting for the CBI either or nissan. It irritates me when the likes of nissan interfere in the policy of a foreign country. I dont think the eu has been good for our farmers or fishermen either. Good debate though.
I've never thought that privatising the railways a good idea, or things like the National Health Service. Surely privatising these is just like saying 'we've failed and are giving up' instead we should be finding a better way to run them. I have never understood why they keep running out of beds and do not have enough doctors, when they always have enough money for some new amazing scanner that only helps a limited number of people, crazy system.
should never have been privatised and neither should railways, buses, Royal Mail they already belonged to the majority and yet they were taken away and resold to the very people who already owned them under old Thatcher! Just like she asset stripped local councils of social housing and then sold this back to the people at a knock down price and prevented councils from using the proceeds to build more housing stock! Thatcher frittered away our North Sea oil and gas to win votes when instead she should have reinvested the money in to infrastructure projects and modernising our manufacturing base to create employment for the future. It is sad that it has taken people so long to understand how little control they have over what once belonged to them the majority of which is owned by foreign companies and even if a future government tried to renationalise them then it would be sued in the international courts and most probably lose! Never mind as call me Dave said "We are all in this together!"
What utter clap trap! If Europeans want to buy a Mini or Bentley or a Dyson or shop at M&S, they will continue to do so. Very strange that the Swiss are not walking around in tatters. They are right in the centre of the EEC but not part of it! What do they know that we do not? Are they smarter than us or are they just lucky?
Again it has become increasingly popular to blame Europe for all our woes being the headline stance of UKIP, along with immigration and the other intangible favourites used over the passed 100 years by many countries over the centuries in times of of their distress.
However if one looks at our only seeming Beacon of British manufacturing success - the car industry, then the only reason that Nissan, Honda, Toyota, even for goodness sake Mini (BMW), and landrover are in the UK is that by manufacturing in the UK their produce are deemed qualifying models for access to the massive EEC market place.
If we exit the EEC then they will simply relocate to Europe effectively overnight following the manufacture of sufficient models to enable a seamless fully EEC funded transfer to another qualifying country, which would have probably been eastern European several years ago, replicating many general multi-national manufacturers who did this simply to save cost during the nineties whilst retaining their EEC qualification, but with the EEC old guard now suffering will likely be France, Spain, or even Germany.
In respect of our headline contribution you must look far deeper for a meaningful interpretation and deem it as an investment, and the 'British' car industry above along with other returns as a benefit, with the difference either being the net loss/surplus of EEC membership which no one seems to do.
For example whereas the Germans pay more, they get infinitely more back due to their huge manufacturing/engineering base who provide/supply the massive infrastructure projects funded by EEC contributions throughout Europe but particularly in the junior recent member states
Whereas increased membership is always seen as a further burden by us with increased costs it is relished by Germany as a sort of fresh meat to add further growth to their economy
Therefore whatever the 'current' mainstream politicians say in theory we can never leave Europe in practice not only due to us losing an irreplaceable market place but simultaneously losing a significant percentage of 'our' manufacturing base leaving us with nothing to trade, along with the massive contribution of the 'City', which would be no doubt moved to Paris.
However although as the argument is never fully debated, either as a result of ignorance or design, it is just continually used as an extremely popular headline cause by the what were a once peripheral party for people to register their protest.
We are perhaps fortunate in one sense in that the current seeming intransigence of the main parties to the concerns of the people, or certainly to fully address issues has only resulted in UKIP, and thankfully nothing more sinister.
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