should never have been privatised and neither should railways, buses, Royal Mail they already belonged to the majority and yet they were taken away and resold to the very people who already owned them under old Thatcher! Just like she asset stripped local councils of social housing and then sold this back to the people at a knock down price and prevented councils from using the proceeds to build more housing stock! Thatcher frittered away our North Sea oil and gas to win votes when instead she should have reinvested the money in to infrastructure projects and modernising our manufacturing base to create employment for the future. It is sad that it has taken people so long to understand how little control they have over what once belonged to them the majority of which is owned by foreign companies and even if a future government tried to renationalise them then it would be sued in the international courts and most probably lose! Never mind as call me Dave said "We are all in this together!"
What utter clap trap! If Europeans want to buy a Mini or Bentley or a Dyson or shop at M&S, they will continue to do so. Very strange that the Swiss are not walking around in tatters. They are right in the centre of the EEC but not part of it! What do they know that we do not? Are they smarter than us or are they just lucky?
Again it has become increasingly popular to blame Europe for all our woes being the headline stance of UKIP, along with immigration and the other intangible favourites used over the passed 100 years by many countries over the centuries in times of of their distress.
However if one looks at our only seeming Beacon of British manufacturing success - the car industry, then the only reason that Nissan, Honda, Toyota, even for goodness sake Mini (BMW), and landrover are in the UK is that by manufacturing in the UK their produce are deemed qualifying models for access to the massive EEC market place.
If we exit the EEC then they will simply relocate to Europe effectively overnight following the manufacture of sufficient models to enable a seamless fully EEC funded transfer to another qualifying country, which would have probably been eastern European several years ago, replicating many general multi-national manufacturers who did this simply to save cost during the nineties whilst retaining their EEC qualification, but with the EEC old guard now suffering will likely be France, Spain, or even Germany.
In respect of our headline contribution you must look far deeper for a meaningful interpretation and deem it as an investment, and the 'British' car industry above along with other returns as a benefit, with the difference either being the net loss/surplus of EEC membership which no one seems to do.
For example whereas the Germans pay more, they get infinitely more back due to their huge manufacturing/engineering base who provide/supply the massive infrastructure projects funded by EEC contributions throughout Europe but particularly in the junior recent member states
Whereas increased membership is always seen as a further burden by us with increased costs it is relished by Germany as a sort of fresh meat to add further growth to their economy
Therefore whatever the 'current' mainstream politicians say in theory we can never leave Europe in practice not only due to us losing an irreplaceable market place but simultaneously losing a significant percentage of 'our' manufacturing base leaving us with nothing to trade, along with the massive contribution of the 'City', which would be no doubt moved to Paris.
However although as the argument is never fully debated, either as a result of ignorance or design, it is just continually used as an extremely popular headline cause by the what were a once peripheral party for people to register their protest.
We are perhaps fortunate in one sense in that the current seeming intransigence of the main parties to the concerns of the people, or certainly to fully address issues has only resulted in UKIP, and thankfully nothing more sinister.
They have never voted upon paying taxes to westminster but do they get benefit from being part of Great Britain? Should they leave?
I come from Lincolnshire and pay my poll tax and everything, however why should I pay taxes to Westminster? Have I voted upon that union? No, do I think Lincolnshire should become independent? Well it could easily be argued that the money I spend maintaining jobs in Westminster would be better spent in Lincolnshire!!!!
This is a really complex subject and if each little part is looked at then a fair overall view is not represented.
One just needs to look at the benefits each of the 50 states get from being in the union of the United States to understand the benfits of numbers, if the UK was outside of Europe would we be as Mexico is to the US?
But it is a very complex issue that is far more than how much tax we pay to the EU.
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