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Share Price: 76.33Bid: 76.35Ask: 76.36Change: 0.45 (+0.59%)Riser - Lloyds Grp.
Spread: 0.01Spread as %: 0.01%Open: 75.85High: 76.54Low: 75.11Yesterday’s Close: 75.88


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Petanqueplayer
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Sean
18 Sep '14
Good post mate - we have all had our laughs about what is happening, but it really is serious stuff, and if you vote to go it alone, then good luck to you all.

I personally believe if there is a split in the union that Scotland will suffer, and England and the reast of the union will move forward, and whilst i will still keep my good friends in Scotland, as countries we will not be "Friends" we will be competitors!!

I only know a dozen or so Scots, and their mood is generally downbeat at the prospect of going it alone
 
DD42
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Re jings100
18 Sep '14
Don't think you read the article correctly:

"The survey for Ipsos MORI, published by the London Evening Standard as voting was underway, put the No camp on 53 per cent and Yes on 47 per cent"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-final-poll-puts-no-campaign-ahead-by-six-percentage-points-9741019.html
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RE: DD42
18 Sep '14
No Jings, that last poll puts NO at 53%, you got it the wrong way round.

I really think polls are pretty useless here - this is not a constituency election where the "swing" is the most important thing, this is a referendum where every single vote counts so asking a "representative" sample is a non-starter as the only sample that matters is the final tally.

This hugely successful Union we've had for 300 years has left hundreds of thousands of Scots poor, dispossed and and disenfranchised. For years they have been off the democratic radar but now have been re-registering in massive numbers. Will they be voting to keep a Tory government we didn't elect and a country blighted by food banks? Do they share Gordon Brown's bizarre delusion that he is still PM or has any kind of power whatsoever to deliver the crazy promises he has been making? Promises that have quite rightly stirred up some real vicious anti-Scottish feeling amongst English MPs and the English people in general? Read the Daily Mail and Daily Telegraph websites today to see the bitterness and bile that will be unleashed on SCotland now regardless of the result. Why hang around for that when we can escape?

I would really like to know who the pollsters are asking.

Take the No side - many moderate people, but a hard core of scared pensioners, BNP types and the Orange Order militants. That is a solid base and it is probably who the pollsters have been talking too - particularly the pensioners who still have landline phones and are about the only ones in this age of PPI calls who still actually answer the phone, thus are easy targets for polling companies. But not representative.

Maybe there really is a silent majority who are going to deliver a 53% No victory - but having been up and down the country and talking with people in business, socially and on the streets, I am still expecting a 55%+ Yes.

Anyway, we shall see in less than 18 hours, and I wish everyone on here good luck, and hope regardless of the result there is no real impact on the market - unlike last week where the effect was put on as a piece of drama to scare voters.
GOODJOB
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British ?
18 Sep '14
I think most Scots would even voting NO would consider themselves Scottish. Equally I consider myself English. The way that being a British citizen has been devalued in the last 50 years and even more so the last 20, I would distance myself from being British. Half the scum of Europe hold a British passport !
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RE: Scottish vote (RichardG)
18 Sep '14
Excellent post in fact the best I have read for a long time . Well said sir.
rxbroy
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Fishy
18 Sep '14
It will be the piece of cod that passeth all understanding.
jings100
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RichardG
18 Sep '14
Holiday'd in Ireland a few years ago . Didn't feel at all foreign .
RichardG
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Scottish vote
18 Sep '14
I find it immensely sad that whatever happens tomorrow, Scotland will be split down the middle. The wounds will take a long time to heal and resentment will fester for years. I don't think any of us, regardless of party, are particularly well served by the current politicians on both sides of the border. They simply don't connect with the majority of people and most of them are career politicians and looking after themselves. But I don't want regional assemblies and more politicians and more civil servants. Just jobs for the boys and ultimately, higher taxes. Perhaps the way in which schools have unpaid trustees and governers is a system where local governement could encourage those who want to put a little back into society.

I asked one scottish lady how would she feel if she no longer could be called British and after tomorrow might be living in a foreign country. She said it did feel rather frightening.
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Re: SAYS IT ALL REALLY
18 Sep '14
That's all right, mate. We've put up with it from you lot for years.
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DD42
18 Sep '14
Might not be floundering now .
Scottish independence: Final poll puts Yes ahead by six percentage points
NIGEL MORRIS 21 MINUTES AGO



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