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Share Price: 233.00Bid: 232.90Ask: 233.10Change: 7.40 (+3.28%)Riser - Royal Bank Scot
Spread: 0.20Spread as %: 0.09%Open: 226.40High: 234.40Low: 223.60Yesterday’s Close: 225.60


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mailman
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Today 12:05
Report today that industrial output fell in 2015... seems obvious as our imports keep going up.. Our exports last reported were 30% down on imports.. Relying on our service industry so much may well be a regret in years to come... too much reliance on somebody else is never a good situation to be in.. we need to be more master of our own destiny... and with more home production and manufacturing and bought in the UK ..If imports rise to 40% or more by 2025 is will not be a good sign.. or situation to be in...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12149849/Shock-fall-in-UK-industrial-output-lays-bare-plight-of-sector.html
 
honestbob
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mailman
Today 08:56
You are right governments idea of helping first time buyers usually involves making it possible for them to borrow more .Which means they can afford bigger mortgages and more expensive houses .This helps push house price up so they are no better off than before but with a bigger debt .Government would perhaps do better to look at buy to let - which buy large proportion of starter homes - not fair perhaps to penalise existing - but new ones subject to an even greater stamp duty - which could go towards social housing
mailman
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Honestbob.. All
Tue 23:07
The reports of Banks are not making that amount of profits .. Talk of banks now think about increasing fees

With talks of negative interest rates in the USA surely will not help things .. Japan went Negative last week

Could we be on the verge of a big recession .. With so much debt .. as the price of houses has increased over the past 10 years the amount of the size of the average mortgage loan has also been increasing .. To make things worse the government have stepped in with .. Help to Buy mortgages to get people into debt that could not afford to buy a house in the normal way .. Bending the system to encourage more debt seems asking for trouble in years to come .. And another possibility future financial situation ..

Debt to me is a killer... And constantly encouraging more of it maybe suicide down the road.. Everything has a limit ..
mailman
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Honestbob ... All
Tue 23:03
The reports of Banks are not making that amount of profits .. Talk of banks now increasing fees

With talks of negative interest rates in the USA surely will not help things .. Japan went Negative last

Could we be on the verge of a big recession .. With so much debt .. as the price of houses has increased over the past 10 years the amount of the size of the average mortgage loan has also been increasing .. To make things worse the government have stepped in with .. Help to Buy mortgages to get people into debt that could not afford to buy a house in the normal way .. Bending the system to encourage more debt seems asking for trouble in years to come .. And another possibility future financial situation ..

Debt to me is a killer... And constantly encouraging more of it maybe suicide down the road.. Everything has a limit ..
honestbob
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mailman
Tue 14:24
Goodness knows at this rates of knots they will have to merge two or three shares into one to convince themselves it is not a penny share again

In practice my guess is price will drift until there is sign of a real retained profit - ie after all so called one offs and write downs
mailman
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Tue 12:49
And the drop continues..

Anyone have any thoughts of a bottom.. 200p..150p...100p.. This year..

Global movements now seem to be able to create a bigger worry than 25 years ago .. The Internet news now gives quick instant information than years ago ..

Good or bad..
Neepheid
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Mon 21:52
Good discussion, some interesting points. Isn't it all about growth? As the standard of living improves people want and expect more, the difference in the UK over the past 70 years has been phenominal. The demand for fuel and power ran faster than we could keep up with in terms of investment in all our industries and, of course, other countries with lower wage costs could sell us what we needed cheaper than we could produce. But times change, we are well into the techno age and are one of the leading countries in the World, this allows the development of fantastic machinery, products, etc., which is allowing all sorts of production operations to get established and,of course, we can sell the technology around the World. I mentioned a few weeks ago about the return of the textile industry, others will follow, and who knows we may well see steel and shipbuilding again in years to come. I wasn't aware of the weir at Beeston being used to generate electricity, I live quite near, but it seems to have a lot going for it. There are a number of weirs on the Trent which suggests they could all be generating. Similarly with our other big rivers. Even smaller ones. Why not? If out techno people could design a generator that could be produced in numbers at a sensible unit cost and easily fitted that seems to have real potential. It may come.
mailman
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LennyMac..Jings100 .. All..
Mon 09:08
Lack of investment on Many things the past 50 years...

Unless I have got things wrong..

Group 1 ... UK Roads infrastructure, NHS, Crowed Rail System and of course housing affodability ... All have got worse in serving the public over the past 25 years..

Group 2 .. The 2 big opposite trend in things is the relentless growth in House Prices and the increasing population ...

It seems Group 1 .. Is Conflicting against Group 2 ... If these 2 groups were more equally beneficial to the majority, life in general would be better for all.... Sadly as we all know money and greed is the govering factor in many situations.. which has also seen relentless growth in the wealth gap...

Unaffordability is the word that is now gradually encroaching on many peoples lives in different ways...

How the situation we be by say 2025 .. We will see.. How much improvement is created by adjustment to the 2 example groups I have mentioned..
LennyMac
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Son of Robin
Mon 08:26
Surely we could infer that it is cheaper to do it that way rather than produce it in the UK? Businesses will quite obviously go for the optimal combination of inputs. I might also infer that perhaps the conditions for producing steel in the UK (eg wage levels, transport and other input costs, the quality, age and scale of the technology used to produce steel, possibly red tape)... all these things conspire to make UK steel less competitive. The government has two options: either accept that it is unlikely that the UK will be able to produce steel competitively and create the conditions to produce other things, or it tries to improve the internal commercial environment so that steel makers derive reductions in their costs of production, eg lower taxes and rates for steel producers, improved infrastructure (rail links, ports), support for development of engineering talent. The current state of the UK steel industry isn't crazy; it is simply the inevitable product of years of governmental neglect of these factors and underinvestment by the businesses themselves (although the government must also take some of that blame, for not incentivising UK steel producers to invest).
mailman
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SonofRobin.. All
Sun 10:02
Nice post and interesting..

If the steel now comes to the UK via the system you posted ... It just shows the poor state of affairs the UK steel industry and others have ended up... And it is all mainly down to money and cost... Even more so in the current world we live in... How shipping Lambs from Australia years ago was cheaper than UK home produced Lambs seemed crazy to me... Probably because of the sheer volume shipped .. .. Now it is mass volume of migrants being shipped .. One extreme to another ..




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