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Share Price: 67.73Bid: 67.73Ask: 67.77Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on Lloyds Grp.
Spread: 0.04Spread as %: 0.06%Open: 67.26High: 68.00Low: 67.26Yesterday’s Close: 67.73


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Troajan
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wids
Today 18:02
but markets are a barometer m8...they always have been.
and yes,the top of this cycle is nearing,but no one,me you,john,whightlady,esperger or DCB,know where the actual top is,ot could be this year,next year or the year after.......no one knows
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but one day,you'll be right.lol.(after several years)
 
john46
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Chris
Today 17:59
When the Fed is the only buyer , the Dollar will plummet in value , causing inflation .
Wids
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RE: john46
Today 17:54
Troajan, that's the whole point, you don't wait for something to happen and listen about it on CNBC - then it's too late. A lot of the big players have already gone to cash or reduced exposure. Markets are not a barometer of economic health as some TV eejits suggest.
chrisw01
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john46
Today 17:52
is the fed really finishing QE they cannot off load the bonds they hold because the treasury will be issuing new bonds so will have to hold them to maturity what will they do with that money but mop up what the treasury cannot sell this is QE in all but name
Troajan
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john46
Today 17:41
at least wait till this has topped out before committing to safe havens....https://www.quandl.com/data/ISM/MAN_PMI-PMI-Composite-Index
Troajan
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john46
Today 17:28
2.9% isnt high,4.9% is high
anyway,dont forget trillions was wiped off the indices in recent weeks and energy prices have pulled back from januaries highs,so that'll dampen next months inflation data.
ITS TOOOOOOOO EARLY to be wids.lol.
Newchurch
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John..
Today 17:20
I am not wise, or informed enough to know, or even guess at how the worlds economy will cope with the huge amounts of QE, but clearly the effects will be felt in inflation.

Yet, isn't that what countries holding debt want, to inflate away the debt?

IF our Grandfathers had bought two or three houses for a couple of hundred each, no doubt they would have suffered in paying it back. Yet today, most of us could pay off the whole debt, without raising an eyebrow due to inflation.

So if the USA is heavily indebt, then provided the debt is not index linked, the debt will become effectively less as inflation makes the debt 'worth' less. It is the creditors surely who should be more, or equally as concerned.

As interest rates rise, then so should interest on savings, thus making PM's less attractive unless of course we have full Western melt down of the fiscal system.

SHOULD that occur, then as I have said on here before, the p.i holding a few Britannia's or sov's will be robbed upon trying to trade them if society fully breaks down, gangs will rule not PM holders.

An interesting topic, and as I say, I cannot even begin to understand the implications of such, but am interested in your and others views on such.

Just have heard it all before at the start, a decade ago, of the end of Western capitalism, yet I cannot see the West rolling over and allowing there entire way of life to end.

Unlike after warfare, the demand is there, the resources are there, the ability is there, so 'the' problem is the debt, and perhaps, as last time, a third world war would make the USA the only wealthy emerging nation.

Would not put anything past them, as they care for their people and it's standard of living continuing and stuff everyone else.
john46
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Chris
Today 17:19
When no one wants US debt , credibility in the system collapses . Fed will have to pick up slack , money supply increases , as does inflation.
Wids
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RE: Wids
Today 17:18
I'll believe it when the cheques come rolling in.
john46
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Wids
Today 17:14
By year end , you will be looked upon as a Prophet of wisdom.




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