Hot tip for you Fishfaced, Subject to staying in GO will balance our books by 2020 and during the Conservatives 2nd term we will start to pay down our debt, the EU will eventually resolve their problems by following in our foot steps, Turkey will not join in the foreseeable future,
A straight forward question for you - which of the EU rule are you most keen to ditch in exchange for the economic chaos an exit would cause?
Wids, I respect your opinion and agree that austerity hasn't worked as well as we'd have hoped to tackle the nations debt issue. We do need to manufacture more, sell more and consume less.
But in order to export more as a nation, we need a more educated and skilled workforce to attract FDI and to also develop competencies in sectors besides just finance. This, is likely to take a long time (providing we leave the EU, FDI would probably dip, Investments by domestic countries would dip)! We're currently heading into a future where we have huge skill gaps at both ends of the spectrum. Once again, as an ageing population, this is nothing we can fix in the near future. We need skills and talented immigration to help us.
We need a healthier and more productive workforce, why can't we achieve that with the support of the EU? Let's not forget immigration is a net contributor to the economy and over the last 15-20 years has probably stopped the country lagging in productivity.
The health and education of this country can be improved within the EU and pretty much lies in the power of our government and our population. These are not issues which can be dealt in the short term and by leaving the EU, all we're surely doing is inflicting pain on ourselves in the near future, for a speculation that will perform better as a nation by working against our European partners.
As you mentioned, other countries will be looking at what happens. A disintegration of the EU will lead each country competing on it's own. Do you think in 20 years (the time it'll take to see real benefits) a population that has the average age of 43+, can compete against the likes of new Asian superpowers or even younger European nations? Unlikely.
Asperger1 - Dear GO is a politician, promises much and delivers even less. He promised to reduce the debt when it was half a billion quid inherited from Uncle Gordon. Now at 1.6 trillion the promises ring hollow and can reasonably assume somfin when wrong. Maybe more austerity measures, more strikes, return of the 70s, Greece like protests, - who knows.
So, to decrease our debt we need to do more trade. Manufacture more, sell more, import less, consume less. From about 2000 to 2016 our trade balance is appalling, as a nation we far out live our means, (in eu)so please don't say we're doing ok - we aint. If other EU countries are in a far worst position than the UK (agree there) that's saying something.
Anyway, what will be will be on the 23rd. Won't matter much, there's 27 other states eyeing the exit gates.
You know the saying "you can't teach olde Goldman dogs new tricks". Even the Germans think Draghi is a lunatic ;)
`GO has promise to balance the books asap !LOL` he has been saying that in his first year as chancellor! We are in a worse state now than when the CONS came to power.! `The EUs`s economy is in a far worse state!` Far worse...you having a laugh m8?
I refer you to Portugal,Italy Ireland Greece( who the Germans have taken all the Greeks silver) andSpain.Greece will NEVER pay off its debt.
Britain will have to fork out more and more to support these countries.Wait until Turkey joinsLOL
`If you can see where they are going wrong` I think it is pretty damned OBVIOUS where they are going wrong!
By the way.... your nom de plume is open to misinterpretation.
Asperger..Your sentiments are laudable, you're obviousy a decent chap of the first order but I have to say that one can be co-operative and compromise as you do with neighbours for instance but you shouldn't be expected to have them in your own home. It goes back to one aspect I mentioned in my post just now, sort out despots and give all the help to stabilise a country and get it on the path to a decent society.. Unfortunately, I read very recently, that the default mode for humans is war.
Tallrugbyboy..noted that re. Oil....to get back on track..lol..thanks. Hopefully it will be an up day tomorrow.
As an aside, we keep hearing about how we need immigrants to suport the economy going forward as we have an ageing population but they bring families who are entitled to health care, child benefit,education for the children , housing priororty because they have children. No doubt more aspects I haven't included.
It can only get worse as long as despots are allowed to murder,torture abuse in other ways their populations but how they can be stopped I don't know. The UN is useless. My thinking is, in the case of Syria, how can one man...ok.in addittion his equally rutheless entourage..be allowed to cause the mayhem he has. Russia didn't hesitate to go in,unfortunately as it's done in Ukraine too. The other problem country causing a fleeing population abd little mentioned is Eritrea. Since independence from Ethiopea overseen by the UN and the EU a despot has been allowed to run the country. Reicently 34,000 have arrived in Italy...As you'll be aware,Utaly was the colonial power in Ethiopia.
The other aspect to the situation,mentioned below re. Turkey, is the ever-increasing Islamic population here in the UK. The government have now instigated an inquiry into how sharia councils..don't let them be called courts..there's only one official judicial system in this country..so,the inquiry,set up by Theresa May recently, is looking into how theses councils treat women. We know how they treat women, we don't need an inquiry to tell us. In addition, you have to ask why HMG hasn't kept a record, at least officially ,of how many of these councils there are... it's believed there are 48. Mohamad is the most popular, for popular read numerous, name given to babies these days . The writing is on the wall and has been for a good while we ignore it at our peril.
Not sure how all this affects the sp of Lloyds but there you go. Back to normal tomorrow, I guess.
Scfc just a load of truths if you watch. the figures are huge do you know any person who gets £13000/5 years ,,work guaranteed pension,the numbers i put in earlier post doesnt include MEPs,Look at the kinnocks for what they hoover up.nice little socialist earner,does any one believe thats sustainable
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