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Lloyds Share Chat (LLOY)



Share Price: 63.91Bid: 63.91Ask: 64.05Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on Lloyds Grp.
Spread: 0.14Spread as %: 0.22%Open: 63.85High: 64.26Low: 63.64Yesterday’s Close: 63.91


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Troajan
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lloy
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fleccy
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RE: fleccy
Today 14:30
Bit touchy fishface, correcting me on my use of there, instead of their. Believe it, or not, I am aware of the correct syntax in relation to there, they're and their, but sometimes get carried away forming the content and don't read back through my dribble, such is life.
fishfaced
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fleccy
Today 13:42
can play` there `games......their games! `THEIR` books are over `THERE`. `THEY"RE seeing them
later!

ATB ff
NuckyThompson
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RE: RE: AHO
Today 11:51
Jumping in, is it not enough that we just stopped paying our special friends across the pond for their efforts in WW2. GB should start sticking up for ourselves! Happy Sunday everyone
Asperger1
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RE: RE: AHO
Today 10:51
Its silly season WL/Newchurch - the movers & grovers are away enjoying the sun and scare stories abound - should the SP still be around this level when my divi arrives next month I'd defiantly be buying more (but it won't)

And at year end results, when AHO informs us how the excess profits are to enrich shareholders - extraordinary divi or in the form of buybacks we know the SP won't be at this stupid low level

And that's why you, I and many other sensible investors continue to hold ;-)

2017 ♞ 📈 ❤️
fleccy
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RE: RE: AHO
Today 10:13
Newchurch, I don't disagree that market manipulation does take place, but your posts have hints of paranoid delusions about Government conspiracies, which goes beyond banter. You should take a break away from the market. Maybe take a two week holiday, away from the news and when you return, see the comedy in this drama we call life. I invest because I enjoy the thrill of the race, the twists and turns, the ups and downs and the profit is secondary. I also like to win and have limited time, so day trading, or spread betting, isn't for me. Enjoy the game, or don't play it.
fleccy
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RE: RE: AHO
Today 10:03
Lloyds is getting hit because it's a UK focused stock and it's currently Chic to pummel UK stocks and hype up European stocks. I've always been a bit contrarian, so I treat the city herd mentality with deep suspicion. I don't look at the fashion, but I do look at value and value is price to book and dividend yield. The City can go off and play there games and i'll just sit and watch the tide turn. My personal view is set your target price and play the long game if you have too, that way the algo's, day traders and market makers can play there games and be ignored.
Newchurch
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RE: RE: AHO
Today 09:53
Asp, never suggesting I 'foresee' any particular 'event', yet am wise enough to know, that banks profits are too much of a temptation for individuals, companies, and Governments, to 'leave them to get on with making such' in such times as we are now facing.

Those being, every individual, looking for a blame then claim, companies hard pressed, looking to get easy money from any source they can, and Governments finding diverse ways of injecting cash, which they don't have (thanks to lower taxes on lower earnings in no small part thanks to huge influxes of dirt poor people, ensuring wages cannot rise) into the wider economy.

Now we have this, international milk maids, as we run out of teats for shareholders on the soon barren cash cow.

We will never know what 'deals' are done between Governments, yet the City is likely aware of the odd nod, or wink.

Not saying what I say is so, just trying to find rational and irrational explanations of why Lloyds despite the Gov being out, is still falling.

Whilst you keep the bb informed of factual profits made (yet, not necessarily ones to be distributed to us) it would be interesting to hear why you assume (for none of us know) why Lloyds share price is sliding away now, the much hyped HMG have left the share holder list, whilst imo, still having as much influence on Lloyds future direction?

Truly interested, not for a reason to ridicule, but fascinated how someone so upbeat on Lloyds, expecting so much when HMG left, now rationalises the downward direction of what you, and most others assumed would move upwards?
fleccy
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RE: RE: AHO
Today 09:24
Something else to consider. If the investments made weren't directly related to Libor itself, but speculative investments where the Libor rate may have had a secondary effect, how do you value that? Another thing to consider is that the Libor rate was set in London, were the impacted investments made in a different jurisdiction and therefore enforceable in UK civil courts? In view of the US courts raising jurisdictional issues, the same may apply when the UK courts consider this.
fleccy
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RE: RE: AHO
Today 09:13
The case brought in the US, that was kicked out for lack of jurisdiction, was for a Billion dollars. Hardly the same as the hyped up figures some of the press like to bandy around. We truly are in the era of fake news.

"While there is no value stated for the English suit, the FDIC’s New York claim was seeking damages as high as $1bn. "

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