Thanks TartanLady for your kind comments. From a neutral stance....I didn't vote... the FT extract below may interest you and of course D&D :-
Britain’s scientists have benefited enormously from EU funding and the free flow of talented researchers across Europe. Like most scientists, I believed the benefits of continued membership of the bloc outweighed the costs, and would have preferred that the UK had voted to remain, in the referendum in June. But it is unwise to imagine that there were no disadvantages, and important now to look at how best to advance science in the longer term as the UK prepares for Brexit.
dunandusted, Indeed I am, if it is there to use then why should these grumps bully others just because they have no interest in the topic being discussed. Off topic helps posters understand each other a bit better.
Good for you, knowledge is there to be shared and if you can pass it on to the next generation that is something to be proud of. Lol, we do tell children some strange things when they are young. Another one for thunder is "the angels moving the furniture" Funnily enough, I do not recall any strange explanations for lightening.
Thanks for that.I have noticed that you're a staunch defender of the Off Topic option. It does give a little relief which is often needed. Actually, I meant to say " I'm very keen on sharing 'knowledge' rather than 'information' in a bid to enlighten people. Maybe I should have been a teacher as I 'm really enthusiastic about it. My nieces,nephews and friends' children at an early age will tell you that they recall me explaining, amongst other natural phenomena the mechanics and dynamics of thunder storms when they occurred...clouds don't bang together because some god is angry..lol
Gutter press still digging at (9% owned by HMG) Lloyds - shame on Ruth Sunderland for the Daily Mail - pitiful - sooner we get HMG off our back the better - come on AHO, let see fight - start buyback's - give HMG no reason to be here.
Sadly I dont believe we will agree a trade deal with the EU as there will be too many unagreeable points so when Article 50 is invoked wont make any differance so sooner the better and we can then join USA, China etc using the WTO until something better can be resolved
fair points of course. there years is a long a time and I believe many events will occur which will strengthen our position relative to the EU over this time frame. The Key member states in the EU are all facing elections and some major financial shocks are not far away. The EU will need access to our markets for many of their products as evident from the fact that we have been running a material trade deficit with the EU for many years. We are now able to negotiate trade deals with 85 % of the global market as opposed to being dependent on 15%. The EU will want some form os special relationship with us lest we set up a tax haven. There are many complications for sure but we must not forget that come what may we are a good sized economy which if well managed should continue to flourish and should be able to keep ahead in the cycle wrt Europe given the financial/growth/fiscal harmonisation issues still being hammered out but likely to see little progress. Europe needs a workable solution perhaps more than we do , which seems to be evident from the toned down rhetoric of late.The same is happening here questions are already being asked if the Remain proponents were too hysterical ahed of the Referendum- you just have to love the media-carney now has to deliver so lest hope Hammond holds his feet to the fire. wrt Lloy there mortgage and finance businesses must be doing well given the spread between wholesale funding and mortgage /financing rates and I seem to be getting fewer calls on PPI these days...
With 27 EU member countries each of which has their own trade agenda it's unsurprising external trade deals are very slow and ponderous resulting in little achieved. Just shows how complex and lengthy our own exit deal will be.
mick..Interesting read,thanks. I have seen that Pangaea speeded up video.
Anyway..back to the markets or we'll be told off..lol
Unfortunately I can't recall the name of the programme on BBCNews24,they aren't listed but it was a panel of experts taking questions and one of the panel was a lecturer from the LSE. She was saying that in her opinion the EU see us as an important trading partner and this hitherto insistence that we have free movement of people or no access to the single market will be tempered,not least by the fact it's not only the UK that is balking at the free movement policy. She thinks there will be a change of heart on that and a compromise will be reached and the UK will have that access,including the financial services passport system. Another reason for such a move are the 2017 election over there .Germany -August 2, earliest to Oct. 22 latest. France..April and May... and the Netherlands March 15 latest. The far Right in all three are a serious threat to the incumbents. A January poll put Gert Wilders of the Netherlands ahead and it's the immigration issue at the heart of it all.
Tied up with it all is,of course security so this free movement threat,she believes will not be carried through as it stands. If that looks like happening that will be a great boost to share prices. Incidentally, figures just released show that they UK had more immigration from people outside the EU than within in it.
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