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RE: can someone tell?
Sat 16:11
It won't be for a while mate. Sorry to hear you have shares in Angel Mining. By the information thats been released to the public from the Administrators, it looks like the Creditors have agreed to let the Administrators do their restructuring. This could involve a bunch of stuff but looking at their debt level which is close to 30 million pounds, they won't be able to pay it back. Looks like Cyprus Capital will take a heavy lose. They will most likely sell the Black Angel project first to see how much they can get for it, then they will offload the gold mining project (they will keep this for as long as possible because it's their only form of revenue at the moment, though I'm skeptical it is making profits since they reported in December 2012 that they were incurring loses in the production and that is when gold was around $1500/ounce, now its the $1300/ounce range. The sad thing is that the mining industry is in a bear cycle and they will get less than a million for the lead/zinc project, Starfield Resources has a base metal project in Nunavut with over $4.5 billion in-situ value which was sold for $800,000. And the economics of that project are way better than Black Angel.
Cyprus Capital will try to get as much as possible out of the liquidation, then write off the loan they gave Angel Mining for tax purposes. Unfortunately there will be no white knight looking to buy the company, its so far in the hole that those knights are vultures waiting for pick beaten projects up for cheap and of course not incurring any of the bad debt from someone else's mistakes and miss management.
can someone tell?
Fri 23:00
how will I know if whenever in future ANGM starts trading again.........shares have disappeared long before from my nominee account, and i am also going to detele ANGM from my portfolio as more i see it more it troubles me......however if anyone planning to sue NH pls let me knwo also...RIP ANGM
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jsmith1
Fri 14:24
I'm all for wiping out the management team.
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Recoup
Fri 12:10
in SOLG, the time has come :)
takeover?
Fri 11:12
Found this on iii
Russian Mining Entrepreneurs See Big Opportunity in Greenland
Irina Tarascova Reporting
Tuesday 14th May 2013
Chinese dominance of the rare earth metals market could soon be challenged,recent developments in Russia with both the geo political sphere changing,and the country,s new liberal approach to the capital markets,has led to a number of leading figures in the resources sector casting their eye over the lucrative REE sector.Over many years China has been accused of restricting rare earth metal exports to the annoyance of many of their competitors,and has even led to official complaints lodged with the World Trade Organisation.This has now led to an urgent push by leading Russian business figures to redress the balance ,one business leader we spoke to quite openly suggested that china,s rare earth metal restrictions and tarrif,s are putting Russian businesses at a huge disadvantage in International trade deals.
These leading Russian business figures have now identified Greenland as a potential answer to the rare earth metals supply problem,some recent studies suggest that the country could host as much as 40% of the world,s Rare Earth Metals Reserves, yet is currently significantly underdeveloped in terms of Mining.The combined investment that could go into Greenland over the coming years could exceed $80 billion,with Russia leading the way.One Russian Mining Entrepreneur we spoke to revealed that he is "in the process of concluding a number of deals" in the country that will involve purchasing a number of existing exploration blocks from their current owners and operators,and in one case is confident of buying a whole company that holds some key blocks,and get a London Aim Market Listing thrown in,he explained.
Although Greenland is quite open to high levels of foreign investment into their Mining Industry,their government also has to consider the many green pressure groups that have voiced doubt.It may lead to a restriction in new exploration blocks being issued in certain areas of the country in the future .However the future for Greenland as a significant supplier of REE,s to the global supply chain does appear brig
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RE: RE: RE:RE:RE: Meeting of credit
13 May '13
True, I would also thing the lower gold prices arent helping their cause. It seems like the production hasnt been really that consistent.
I would think if it did survive, they would start to restructure the company, wipe out the management team bring in some new board members perhaps a big investor with board control and then build it that way. It is quite obviously that this management group should not be in charge of large sums of cash. And if they had any assets left, start to develop them or if they have none, start to acquire.
RE: RE: RE:RE:RE: Meeting of credit..
12 May '13
Think they needed about $1.2m to cover cost a month. Think the break even price was about $850 oz.
No resource numbers so its difficult to sell the mine for anything significant.
The fact Cyrus are still bank rolling the mine to keep it going tells you it is producing and paying down debt. How long this will take is anyone's guess as we don't know what they are prodcing,
Also what happens if it pays back all the debt will ANGM ever come back or will it disappear.
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article in DK news paper
12 May '13
Head line is "Greenlands mining adventure in crisis" and they refer to the Angel Mining's situation. There is no mention about any help for the mine.
http://politiken.dk/indland/ECE1967740/groenlands-mineeventyr-er-i-krise/RE: RE:RE:RE: Meeting of creditors
11 May '13
They will make somewhere between 2-3M a month on current gold production. But is there even a profit margin with the gold mine? Operating in Greenland is not cheap and I have a hard time believing the mine is pulling out profits if they are now in Administration regardless of the lavish spending the management team did. Australia has mines dropping like flies right now and these are mines in better economics then this one and with a compliant resource. They will look to get as much as they can, probably less than 5M for the gold mine, if you compare at acquisitions in the market of late. Last week a 1M oz gold deposit went for 15M, It's a pretty glim picture for Angel Mining. Never invest in mining companies that don't have a compliant resource.
RE: RE:RE: Meeting of creditors
11 May '13
That won't happen as they won't cover the debt but they can obviously see the gold production will pay it down over time.
I see it as the gold mine will pay down creditors over the next few months until the point where they can sell the assets to cover the remaining debt. We won't see any return unless someone is willing to come in with a handsome offer for the assets/licences.
This will drag on for months/years and fizzle out