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Over the last 9 years a 100 point change in the FTSE has on average seen a 0.7p change in the Lloy price. But there are many caveats to that, once there was a 500 point drop in the FTSE and LLoyds rose. A better way is to chart the Lloy/FTSE ratio and watch how that moves. Like most indices it generally moves in channels. It has recently broken out upwards of the down channel it was in since last January. So we are currently in a trend of moving up faster than the ftse rises. But that is to be expected as LLoyds recovers, it is currently still quite low in relation to the FTSE. Going back to the 2009 ratio would put LLoyds at 90+. So If the FTSE falls I would expect LLoyds not to react that much, certainly less than the 0.7p per 100 ratio.

The problem is surely that you are in the lift, but there are no floor indicators, you have to decide whether to get out or not. Which way will the lift next move? Saying the lift has a finite upper ceiling is true but of little use to anybody.

That idea was developed by the CPS in 2011.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/investing/article-1723531/Will-you-get-a-Lloyds-RBS-shares-windfall.html

If you believe that "The more sunny days we have the GREATER the chance tomorrow will rain, that is easy" then you probably also believe that if LLoyds has risen for several days in a row there is a greater chance that it will fall tomorrow.

Many people have applied that reasoning to roulette, many now poor people that is.

Presumably when the government bought the shares it ddn't have the money in a savings account but borrowed it in the market. So if it gave the shares away it would still have the debt or rather we the taxapayers would still have the debt so we would not have been given the shares we would have bought them or rather would have been forced to buy them.