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For those that are interested ... a bit of light reading.. http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/company_news/14666194.Share_price_shock_as_RBS_pays_for_past_misconduct/
And cut the losses --- call in the administrators --- share holders would and rightly should get nothing for being silly enough to own shares here. The government should then pay back all the money taken from the tax payer . This bank is toxic -- just saying it like it is.
Putting it in that form it looks horrendous. In The bail out was more than double the 20.5 billion paid out to save Lloyds. The litigation scene still looks horrendous too. You have to wonder why anyone would want to head it up. How bad does it have to get before the plug is pulled. Is there anything good that can be said ? I heard an analyst say,about 2 months ago that at the heart of RBS is a diamond. I don't think HMG (Aka the taxpayer) will ever get it's money back along with those invested at the time of the collapse. In March 2007 they were 600p today the equivalent of 17p. I wonder how many still hold those shares they paid 600p for ? Then there was the consolidation. I expect they bailed out and took the loss but often people will think it will get sorted eventually and hold on but didn't envisage that eventually wouldn't have come even 8 years later. What is amazing is that those,like mailman who buy/sell the swings at the current levels are making decent money. It's not at all a fair world,is it.
RBS Has since 2007: Lost £50 bln Share price Has droped -95% Taxpayer bailout was £45 bln Jobs cut 44,200 (134,000 if incl. ABN Amro acquisition in 2007) And How will we do with outstanding litigation cost and now with low bank rates ....
Nice one HSBC though. You're not all bad then.
Its going sub-zero....ice age style. Banks old school profits wiped out by zero interest and now regulators watching their slight of hand pick pocketing routines. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3725672/Dark-days-ahead-savers-banks-roll-Mark-Carney-s-cut-rates-amid-warnings-drop-zero.html
Feels like a rout ... Results look foul ... Price is low (ish) ... Possibly just a heavy back test ???
I've just finished 5 hours work..lol and I'm retired. It all looks very nice though..including two mown lawns,,says my wife. who is still working. A walk to the beach for a pub lunch ? You'll live forever..lol Ok, noted that re. the share price and post results so I'll keep an eye on it.
Half Year 2016 Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC Fixed Income Investor Earnings Call live
Can't say I'm surprise. Would have made sense to orderly wind this pile of rubbish of bank down in 2008 rather than bring it back to life.
Yes hols time .. Normally now the bank results period has now ended the SP can drop Good luck with the patios... I am off for a stroll down to the Beach for a late pub lunch... Grayling RBS .. can cause grief to many... as small investors we are all on our own... ATB Anther buying opportunity maybe coming in the near future...
Looks distressed, just my sort of stock ,but reading this board i dont think i am going to make a quick buck 10% so will pass Fundamentals /management just not there, unless someone can say we will have a bounce on Monday ?
Again :o(
Mailman. I have no regrets at selling out back in 2013. The money went straight into Astra Zeneca at just over £30 a pop and this has done very nicely thanks (with a little trading in and out around the Pfizer bid) and also pays a regular and generous dividend. RBS gave me nothing but grief, pays no dividend and I had simply had enough of it at the time. A lesson learned for me at least.
Good Afternoon (just..lol). Haven't seen you on here for a couple of weeks, nice to see you back..have you been on hols ? I chose the wrong share when I got £3000 to invest for short-term trading, if you recall. I should have got these but went for Lloyds. I got them at 50.7p and they haven't dipped below that since then..July 7th. I'd have made £630 here because I would have sold at 190p. Do you have a crystal ball I could borrow for next time ? lol.I'll take very good care of it. I heard the results at 7.00am this morning and they were staggering yet the sp didn't really drop that much. I think by 8p by 11.00am but I see it's heading south again. I'm hoping LLoyds will nudge up some,I can sell and buy these if they drop near 160p. Maybe they won't do that again. I've forgotten what the reason was but all shares dropped a lot back then..July 7th. I do wonder who it is who buys these at current levels, can't be to tuck away,they'd go mouldy..lol. I recall you saying you'd done well trading this one.Obviously the state the bank is in has no bearing on buying in at low levels and when a surge comes I wonder why this share would go with it but it does. Back to sanding our front and back patios, ,a good day for it.
Grayling ... You said you sold out in April 2013 with a loss of 36%... Shame you did not stay in longer as it reached 410p in Feb 2015 .. for a nice profit. Hind sight can often catch you out... With the economy the way it is... £3 looks a bit of a wait, £4 seems a struggle in the next year or two ... and £5 is looking like dreamland on current financial trends... in 2007 the SP was £6, that is £60 today after consolidation ALL...... Banking shares prices now in 2016 compared to the year 2000 are a totally different ball game.. So much has happened in the financial world with the 2007 financial crisis and the banks forced reconstructive ways and now Brexit issues, and the UK growing personal DEBT MOUNTAIN.. This said the UK residential Mortgage loan debt must run into TRILLIONS, and credit card debt must be many BILLIONS.... God knows how many are living via a credit and banks overdrafts...to make ends meet... And of course since 2000 house buying to more each year is not affordable and renting is slowly going the same way ... and more under 25s are staying at home with parents every year.... The drop in rates yesterday will encourage more people to max out their mortgage loan application ... But the wise ones will not get into massive debt as the uncertainty at the present time is totally unknown... If a negative interest rate happens in the coming year, then is just highlights how serious the UK problems really are.. Maybe a recession is on the way .. Who Knows Terrorism is also changing many things and security costs to the UK must be Horrendous ..You have your suitcases checked at every Airport but thousands of suitcases are taken on the London Tube System everyday totally unchecked ...Think about ...it is CRAZY with no security checks at all on the TUBE and RAILWAYS and 1000s of people involved every hour ...I will say no more, as you will have your own thoughts ..This is a different UK to 25 years ago.... All my own thoughts as usual... you may agree or disagree... Carry on regardless is the only approach Lets hope things improve.... 50 Minutes it took me to get through passport control on Eurostar.. 2 weeks ago.. at St Pancras ... From Disneyland Paris... from one train... Meanwhile see how far the RBS SP drops today and see what happens next week... ATB ...
Yeah it's been dire and meanwhile those jokers at the top are still being paid millions. I'm fortunately only in RBS for a small amount - I think I might remove it from my portfolio tracker and try to forget about it - maybe in 30-40 years I'll remember it and get a nice surprise... but I wouldn't bet on it! :)
In June 2012 RBS shares were consolidated at a ratio of 1 new share for every 10 held. At the time they were trading at 20p (Friday close) and opened on the Monday at 200p. They are now trading at 183p or 18.3p in old money. So that is all that management have to show for over 4 years of supposed "progress"? I sold out in April 2013 losing 36% of my original investment, but was glad to be shot of it and move on. Pity those who stayed in with the vain hope that Hester could turn it around.
Sure, but we are 'small' players, and it behooves us to consider the value of a company given that we may get trapped in a share for a period of time longer than we would like. RBS pays no dividends, is unlikely to do so, and it's legacy debts will weigh it down. There is a systemic problem with this 'dog'. I don't see anyone wanting to buy it. I feel it will remain a (majority) owned public bank indefinitely. The world as a whole is way over banked, and no question that the best days of RBS are far, far behind it. Your only consideration is not getting trapped in at a price the speculators may not visit again for a considerable time. Good trading.
RBS will sort themselves out eventually but it's going to be a long hard slog and there's not much sign of any significant progress being made. W&G divestment strategy seems to be in tatters and at what cost already? Brexit will be a ready excuse as it is for all banks. Onwards and upwards ... maybe?
Yes, surprised badly! -4% today imo
For some the moon is over £5
Don't see that as any different from many other shares.
Don't see that as any different from many other shares.
2.80% now On the square and level and a diamond in the eye this share is a sell now lol.