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Cap in hand to shareholders year after year, never in the ‘real world’ would a business survive like this does, big round of applause for those who have faith in this and keep giving, one day the money may return to those that have give so generously.
No, you must analyse the loss. Has it increased or decreased?
Would a single multiple of current sales eliminate it?
Would several multiples of current sales make it a distant memory?
Just simple business really
Say no more!
So, set the price lower, less revenue, less gross margin.
Meanwhile, spend loads on promotion, more outgoings, more cash consumed, higher losses.
Never ran a business, clearly.
I pay £28 pm on subscription for the two of us to take one capsule per day. I have always regarded fruitflow as a truly excellent product with many benefits but with the caveat that it is probably only bought by the worried- well middle classes. I have always believed that the excessive (IMO) retail price has taken the supplement out of the reach of a wider user base. Unless the price is brought down to a more affordable level, I envisage even the relatively well off middle classes cutting down as the general cost of living crisis affects all budgets, rich and poor. Maybe if the original price had been set lower with more aggressive marketing, the company would have been in a far stronger position. All IMO, of course.
Alf is rather relaxed actually, being strongly in profit, and still acquiring on dips.
I happen to believe that most of the posts are revenge, wind ups, ad hominem attacks on the best researcher I've ever seen.
Point is, why?
It's clear that no view other than a positive one will be allowed. Posts putting forward any view which does not adhere to this dictum will be removed.
Most of the regulars on here are bullies. I have Alf on filter. He's very uptight and been very abusive to me in the past. I suppose it's born out of endless years of waiting for "a major end user". I think I'm allowed to say that Fruitflow has simply not achieved the traction in the UK that was anticipated so the momentum has been lost. I don't think I've broken any rules by saying that.
Easily avoided, just try not telling lies, or abusing long term holders who have traded more wisely.
Nice once in a while instead of the snippets day in day out which mean very little, shame about the bullying.
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Last week, there was a mild amount of buying, the MM reaction was to move Ask up sharply. Now, we seem to have settled back to almost no trades either way, apart from those small value nonentities of trades, which may reflect CFD's or some other kind of financial instruments. To comment on practical aspects relating to the company, such as new studies, added or removed brands etc, seems to me a reasonable way of passing the time. Even charting indicators, if that's your bag.
On the other hand, the "all is woe" loop tape stuff isn't an appropriate viewpoint given the continual development of Fruitflow as a powerful aid to health across so many physiological functions
Attempting to suppress sentiment here for revenge purposes is vile behaviour IMHO
Been away , same old here then. Moon went off with SIS knowing it was a wait he didn't fancy , looking at his replacements credentials that was the time to leave , lets face it it has been a decade of nothing much but promises of a promised land that might not materialise due to Chinses recession. The West doesn't seem interested in FF . We touched the 200 day MA on the 8th BTW but I think there is low level accumulation , it is this that gives me some hope.
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Thought you had long gone. My god your bitter. Lots going on in PXS world. Bestxstay over on the SAR board. Wait for the next PXS update and perhaps you can go to the AGM and be a man and put your issues to the board. Please move on as life is gard enough without the whingers on this board.
Dippy. For the umpteenth time, I have never been a teacher of English nor any other subject for that matter. The last time I was in an English class was as an A level student at Marlborough, my alma mater, probably before you were a glint in Dippy senior's eye!
AIM Shares should come with a warning sticker, usually a early stage company’s full of promise but with a lot to do, after a time some people get frustrated and vent this, others get frustrated with the individual. While I still see promise here the blue cap is taking its time arriving and who knows if it will have the effect I hope, you don’t generally buy AIM shares for a divi or a ten/ twenty percentage gain, risk against reward means triple+ your investment, maybe 2023 will bring that.
Because he is a retired English teacher. Got nothing to do other than spell check and talk bad about people on any board.
No it's not a private board but it does have rules and that post breaks a few of them as far as I see.
Agreed, it's not private, so I was publicly expressing what I, and a fair few others, think.
Facts are facts, and to say nothing has happened in distorting the truth.
Plenty has happened, and plenty more is due to happen. The start of 2023 could, given a big spend on further research already, be a game changer IMHO
Its not a private board, it’s subjective and the filter button works fine if the posts bother you. Everyone is different, be boring if not.
Linking the specific health benefit to an established brand name would be the decision of that brand owner. For Provexis, the question is whether Fruitflow portrays the plethora of health benefits established and/or under further study ?
To add an additional marketing name wouldn't be feasible cost wise right now, but surely some creative people could arrive at an image with broader appeal once funds allow.
Only a thought process at this stage, of course.
alf
what yer thinking ? Lucozade + FF, Yakult + FF, Nescafe+FF, Punk IPA+FF ??
Wellies
I can see what you're saying Welly, but, if a consumer wants to take O3, which after all has a much more established profile as a health supplement, they would have to take two tabs if they also wanted to take Fruitflow. If you compare the current capsule to the Swanson capsule, I don't believe you can accurately describe it as a gobstopper. I also take plant sterols from Healthspan, and they're roughly double the size of a Fruitflow+ O3 capsule.
Another point, which hasn't been discussed for a long time, is whether Provexis have to use Fruitflow as the headline brand for a future product. I've always thought it a bit clunky. Just saying.
BB
Omega 3 adds unnecessary costs to getting a daily dose of FF. Other supplements (e.g. circulease, BPF) combine with other ingredients - nothing wrong with that if that's what the consumer want. From experience the FF+O3 gobstopper (not my words) has put people off taking it.
imho O3 was added to FF+ because DSM had just bought an O3 company and they wanted to create a new market. The whole philosophy for the FF+ brand was that it would be FF+ plus lots of other combinations which simply didn't materialize yet. Contrast FF+ this to the offerings FlyFit have
FF success is all about numbers, a million daily users would be transformational (##) to us. To achieve this we need FF in a variety of formats in as many jurisdictions as possible, as cheaply as possible. A fiver a month should be an achievable target . Personally am looking forward to having it available in fizzy tablet form and getting back to a having taking FF as part of a daily ritual at a mealtime.
With DSM's shackles off I, like many, have high expectations of IF to deliver the business. We have enough studies/patents/collaborations/boy scout badges in place now to deliver. I'm confident he will. I'm interpreting the dropping of the veggie caps as part of the delivery plan.
Ramble over, just getting impatient.
W$
have a good Sunday
Not sure what you're driving at W$?
Is it that you thing Omega 3 isn't a good pairing for FF?
Appreciate that an increase in production can lead to cost savings, if the demand is there, but FF + Omega 3 seems to be a double benefit, so not sure why you'd suggest we would go another way