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graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:45.50
RE: Strange
6 Jun '17
Nope looking for stop losses and got someone lol
 
Dinoken
Posts: 515
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:45.50
RE: Strange
6 Jun '17
Are you implying brokers might be trying to pick up stock cheap by triggering stop losses ? There is an alternative point of view being that bad news has leaked or there are large sell order hanging about.
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:45.50
Strange
6 Jun '17
Down 5% on no trades are they looking for stop losses.
wanglii
Posts: 94
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:48.00
PTown
6 Jun '17
Think my journey with HAYT needs to finish right here. GLA
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:48.00
RE: Technipfmc
3 Jun '17
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:48.00
Technipfmc
3 Jun '17
EdGasket
Posts: 184
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:48.00
Price falling again
2 Jun '17
48p on the Buy today; waiting for my usual 47p; rinse and repeat.
flundra
Posts: 665
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:50.00
RE: RBS v AVG
1 Jun '17
Oh I see - sorry I thought you were talking about the short term extensions, rather than long term re-financing of the term loan.
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:50.00
RE: RBS v AVG
1 Jun '17
Think we're saying the same thing, point was if AVG weren't involved the finance would now be sorted.
flundra
Posts: 665
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:50.00
RE: RBS v AVG
1 Jun '17
Quite the opposite imo. I think it's fairly obvious RBS are extending the loan precisely because AVG are around. Not indefinitely obviously, but for the time being and for the current bid extension period expiring later this month.

And take your time AVG. Delve deep and get any bid right.

Does anyone know who AVG's main bankers are btw? I think someone on this BB suggested interestingly that RBS might be interested in banking the enlarged entity, and this might be influencing RBS's approach.
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:50.00
RBS v AVG
1 Jun '17
Fairly obvious now that RBS are not going to extend loan until the result of AVG approach is known. So in some way HAYT need to give AVG a permanent timescale and stick to it not fanny around with extentions.

The sooner they decide the quicker RBS can decide. RBS won't need to finance the joint company so in a way AVG are preventing the re finance going forward.

AVG put up or shut up.
flundra
Posts: 665
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RE: RNS
1 Jun '17
Good RNS. Keeps things steady.

HAYT is and always has been imo a strong bankable business. So I’m sure there was no problem HAYT and RBS agreeing another small kick of the can down the road. Also HAYT, AVG and RBS will all understand the true strength of the HAYT business, and that’s all that’s important at this stage. The market seems to have interpreted the can kicking over the last few months as evidence of HAYT having wider funding problems and difficulty obtaining reasonable banking terms, but I don’t think there’s any problem at all. I reckon banking’s sorted and parked pending the outcome of AVG’s approach.

HAYT resolving the banking issues now would neither strengthen nor weaken its hand in the discussions with AVG imo. Working out how to structure the HAYT debt and business within an enlarged AVG will be the “easy” bit for AVG. The tricky bit is putting a present value on HAYT’s future prospects, and I imagine that’s what’s taking the time.

Thankfully I now have a large freshly laundered pile of undies waiting in the airing cupboard, so am as prepared as possible for the nervy countdown to AVG’s decision.
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RE: RNS
31 May '17
Sure was, perhaps first thing tomorrow
chanjael
Posts: 154
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RE: RNS
31 May '17
Mmmmm, no RNS? RBS deadline was today wasn't it?
chanjael
Posts: 154
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RE: RNS
31 May '17
Maybe not ;-)
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RE: RNS
31 May '17
11.45
chanjael
Posts: 154
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RE: RNS
31 May '17
The same time as April's I'd have thought. What time did they announce then?
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RNS
31 May '17
Any guesses what time 11.30am.
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RBS
30 May '17
looks like it's been extended then.
wanglii
Posts: 94
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
Next stop is.....
27 May '17
Niavgra Faills
wanglii
Posts: 94
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
Getting chilly in Philly
27 May '17
Just caught up on the board. Thanks all for the takes on the current position as it's always interesting to hear the views of others. Think GW is right that we shall all know where it's going before any RNS as the lead up to this deadline was, after all, remarkably quiet on trades and told it's own story.GLA
flundra
Posts: 665
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RE: RBS
26 May '17
Possible but more likely another extension of rbs debt situation to end June imo. Organise stack of fresh underpants and check in daily from here imo. AVG certainly serious.
graham-wales
Posts: 34,789
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:52.50
RBS
26 May '17
will be sorted before end of month after that AVG will have to put up or shut up. Nicely played by HAYT.




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