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Share Price: 0.312Bid: 0.312Ask: 0.313Change: 0.016 (+5.41%)Riser - Bank Ireland
Spread: 0.001Spread as %: 0.32%Open: 0.305High: 0.316Low: 0.301Yesterday’s Close: 0.296


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Hotdog1
Posts: 383
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Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.30
Screens red today
Thu 12:52
Yeap screens red today and guess what good old AIB up 5%! What a heap of pure mule that share is with absolutely no rhyme not reason to it....
 
Senator1
Posts: 292
Off Topic
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.29
SHORTING
Thu 12:09
there is no significant shorting of this share. The concentration of ownership would make it extremely dangerous as you could very easily be squeezed. The problem here is that Bkir is valued at a premium to TBV, 1.3x, many banks are at substantial discounts, DB 66% of TBV for ex & the Greeks. So if banks are down it has to fall or the valuation gap widens.

Shorting is selling before you buy. You do this by borrowing the stock, paying a feee and then selling in the hope of buying back later when its cheaper. naked short is where you dont borrow the stock. Naked shorting is against the rules but covered shorting isnt. Sometimes bans on covered shorting are implemented but only for a short periods generally.
Hotdog1
Posts: 383
Off Topic
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.29
Ramerci
Thu 11:56
Sorry R, I didn't mean to use the phrase shorting but as per a previous poster it is my opinion that this stock is subject to manipulation by the big guns. I agree with PmcG's comments. I'm sticking with the stock as if u have patience and conviction I see super normal gains but only in time. My time frame in 48months from now when I'll be pulling the pin. GLA
PGee
Posts: 5
Observation
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.30
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RE: Deliberate Manipulation
Thu 11:44
I have to agree with you, some clown here recently said it was a good example of 'selling the news'! I believe this driving down will continue at every opportunity, to reduce the SP until whenever old Noonan decides to sell the remaining Gov. holdings and whoever this is picks up that stock at a bargain. On the positive side, I believe it will go mad then ;-}
Batfink666
Posts: 72
Off Topic
Opinion:Hold
Price:0.30
Shorting
Thu 11:37
I didn't think shorting was legal now?
ramerci73
Posts: 577
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Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.30
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RE: Shorting
Thu 11:37
Hi Hotdog. How does shorting work exactly. I have an idea I think but not 100% sure.

For example If I buy 20 million shares over three weeks @ 2 cent, my cost is 400k. Now if I wait until they go up in value to say 3 cent and sell 19 million shares @3 cent I am up to 570k. I then offer the shares I have remaining onto the market and sell them at decending prices back down to 2 cents to devalue the share price.

Is it that simple?
Hotdog1
Posts: 383
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Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.29
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Shorting
Thu 11:07
I agree......the big guns have a wrap with this share
Rentonted
Posts: 14
Off Topic
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.30
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Deliberate Manipulation
Thu 10:35
I have my own views on this but interested to hear any theories. Constantly being shorted for small money driving price down promoting tree shake etc
Hotdog1
Posts: 383
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Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.30
Ramerci
Thu 10:22
Yeap I know frustrating .....stick with the programme and you'll be rewarded
Howth
Posts: 59
Observation
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:0.30
Bad News Caffeine A/ Ramerci
Thu 10:09
On the 10th October 2014, I posted that "I think this will be our last opportunity to top up below 30 cent". SP this morning at 30c so hope it will not drop further. Ramerci's last post echoes my feeling about the effect of good news on BKIR price.
However despite whatever manipulations are taking place I believe that the good results cannot be ignored much longer and that we will see a substantial rise soon, possibly after the 3rd quarter interim statement.
Howth



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