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Suzy. In politics the notions of right and left are all subjective depending on where the middle is set. In America Democrats are regarded as raving lefties but here we would see them as centre or even centre right. Sweden's centre looks left of centre to us. Some of the right/left brain theories are now being questioned or debunked. The pendulum of politics will always swing, its a question of how much and the timetable. Boris and his crew will not past forever, and that comes from someone whose politics are regarded as right of centre, but the UK centre not America's. I'm always told I should not discuss politics or religion. How dull.
I think Ulf should have taken the vote anyway. A someone may have crossed over and B that would be one of the 4 votes required.
"Will we ever get away from right and left, I wonder and consign them to history"
Sadly no, at least not all the while the lefty PC keep preaching their own rhetoric as to what is correct and what is not.
This woke brigade trying to rewrite history is pisxxxg everyone off, I don't need a jumped up bunch of lefty snowflakes telling me what I can say or do.
SP now firmly entrenched in the sub 4p category, go figure.
Hello Rickmeister. Will we ever get away from right and left, I wonder and consign them to history. Such a division does exist in nature, the right brain and the left brain and people tend to have a prominent side but they do have both sides in one head.
Andy's correct. Ulf K recognised he wouldn't get enough votes to secure the premiership. Despite being called the Moderate Party, it is regarded as far right wing in Sweden and struggles to get support from other parties. PR politics isn't all its cracked up to be.
Thanks Suzy. Thats what I was missing.
Eric...you and me, we're interested in politics, right? So you have to admit it's interesting, even if it's not what we were hoping for...still think we'll get there in the end cos it makes absolute sense.
Hi Eric...I thought I'd posted it then couldn't find it...it's under No Deals. Started a new link cos this has got too long and I didn't want others to miss Andy's post, which they might have done if my name was on the list. If you know what I mean. Lol.
Hi Wots. Did you also see the link Suzy posted earlier. It confirms what Andy says.
Thanks Andy, I just saw that. I'm wondering if that was a tactic to get to an election rather than having such a slim majority. Difficult to see why he didn't ask for a vote rather than just handing it to Lofven.
He gave up, no need to vote then.
If anybody has a link to the news where Ulf Kristersson was voted down I would really appreciate it as i cant find it.
Yes. Ulf Kristersson seemed the only hope
Looks like another dead year for our money
Swedish constitution requires the speaker to give him an chance to form a government. His chances are slim as relying on all his coalition MPs only gives him a 1 vote margin. I suspect there will be some coalition MPs that wont want him back. If Lofven fails then other parties can try and form a government and failing that a snap election. So weak and fragmented is Swedish political unity at the present, total inertia until Sept 22 is on the cards. None of it looks great for our decision.
Confused..All the reports I read say the speaker gave Ulf 3 days to try to get the votes and report back on Friday.
If the guy who just got a vote of no confidence gets back in then that is a farce.
It's amazingly bad Andy. The whole thing. Stef has a vote of no confidence but nobody else yet it seems is able to do any better. Lol.
Nope, now it's Stefan Lövfen's turn to try to form a government (and we know that would include the Green Party) and he'll tell us his results on Monday.
I thought the vote was to be monday, or did I miss it
Isn't a term we would use in the UK is it...it's out of date, except in cultural terms and then only sort of.
Yes. Let's hope they can come up with something better. Still a few tries left. Lol.
Thanks Eric. What a knot.
Mornin'. I know you are asking Andy the question, but there's a bit about what happens next in here Sooz:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thelocal.se/20210629/swedish-opposition-leader-ulf-kristersson-tasked-with-trying-to-form-a-government/%3famp
https://www.euronews.com/2021/07/01/us-sweden-politics-kristersson
Thanks Andy....What will happen now.