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anger and out of respect to our dear queen we called off the strike so if you want to be pedantic its actually 24 days..... sorry for exploiting you yet again
anger newly planned strikes equates to 19..... already planned and taken are 4... 5if you include tomorrow. If you want to be correct, we have a further 19 days action planned....
@Wolves,
To answer your question, how the company as distributed the £758 million profit was not right, and to be honest as a shareholder the dividend was irrelevant to me. The share price dropped by the same price they paid out the day it was issued and I re-invested my dividend, so the company gave a shareholder like me nothing in real terms. I would quite happily give it back as long as the share price went up by the same amount.
The £200 million share buy back should never have occurred and it should have been distributed to the employees.
As to your other points, there is a reason why I quit the 9-5 life and working as an employee and truthfully, I would never work for someone else or return to that lifestyle ever again. Although if you're in that working environment you give yourself a much better chance of getting ahead by going on training courses and attaining relevant qualification's and certifications in your chosen field.
At the end of the day if there are limited opportunities at one company, if you have a specific skill-set there will always be other options and demand for that skill-set elsewhere, either at another company in the same demographic, or alternatively in a different capacity as a self-employed contractor or whatever.
If employees are working for a company and are being offered crumbs and / or are settling for those crumbs, whilst the higher up's are eating the rest of the loaf, is that really solely the employers fault?
The key is to make yourself hard to replace, and that's why the CWU is so powerful, because individually anyone is replaceable, but as a united force they can't replace 100,000 of you over-night.
There is a story for sides here, but what is going on right is helping no one and both sides are equally to blame for that.
The shareholders are actually the innocents in all of this. The BOD of directors decided on how the fund's were distributed and employees via the Union are the one's who have decided to retaliate by striking
brother shark do do do... and you have the audacity to accuse royal mail employees of being like sheep following the cwu when you are following kretensky.... and he has led you to a big loss up to your neck!!!! pot kettle comes to mind my dear boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anger even the 25 planned strikes you quote are wrong.... its 19 actually.... maybe it will hit 25 with any luck.... just like your holdings...
baby shark do do do... you reckoned it was £50m a day a few days ago.... again, you spout any figures that comes to mind... bit like when you bought in @£4 and peddled £7..... and I thought I was going to have a serious debate on here and what happened???? you turned up .... and please do not call me bro..... only bro's I have are siblings and fellow members of the cwu...
yes i saw that too. good one.
we have had a real term pay cut.... sorry for the two pages as hit wrong key..
@cautioustone....
we as employees know what we want and its not to destroy the company...
a fair paydeal not a 2% imposed on us as teke it or leave it and a proper review and fairness on t&cs... not the bod ripping them up and saying thats what you are getting... afterall we have accepted below inflation rises for nearly 10 years now so realistcly
Thanks JB
It's a pity there wasn't some form of canvassing by the CWU, of the workforce's opinion on what changes & pay rise they would accept; after all it is the workforce who actually have to go on strike. It could also be useful to RMG.
I was not impressed by Dave Ward at the Labour conference saying they were involved in strike action at RMG , BT & PO. Far too macho to justify their existence !
wolvesposty, application for a job withdrawn.....
teslo you quote"Seriously, if people want a pay-rise and better working conditions if real ******* easy, simply go on some training courses and work your way up the ladder." so you would erode the t&cs that people have and the right to a fair pay rise as companies also increase prices due to inflation..to impose on those that do not get up the ladder???? a ladder has x amount of rungs on it and only a few in the workplace can get that special job... so most have to wait their turn.... but I love that ladder thing as be careful who you step on while on the way up as you may meet them on the way down......
dvharrison... no they don't that's why you have postys that's 60 and over mate..................
I suspect Royal Mail staff have the gold plated 'final salary' pension scheme too! Just getting my application in for a job......
Just to let you all know the NHS has the same sickness rules as royal mail 6 months full pay then 6 months half pay
Oligarch your right it is a management failure.Babis he does get paid he will be back a couple of weeks before his full pay runs out. And then rinse and repeat .It’s roughly 7 years that we’ve had 6 months full pay before that it was 3 months the postman I’m talking about would then go sick for 2 and a half months then come back to work it’s called playing the system that’s how I know he will be back early part of December BTW the postman is 34 years old started at RM when he was 23
being as though we are having a proper debate on royal mail ill give you a few tips on how the royal mail management should do but don't....we have got thousands of posties on their knees... been employed for 30/40 years as a posty and now getting old and not at their prime and have to go off sick....i was one who tore a calf muscle and had @8weeks of recovery... if I was 25 it probably wouldn't of happened.. what does royal mail do... I'll tell you.... they put the pressure on when they realise you cannot perform as well as used to and so encouraging people going sick...... they have vacancies indoor to alleviate that problem but no they throw it up for grabs and employ a physically fit younger person rather than offer someone who is struggling the chance.... so, as a business the indoor workers are younger overall than those on foot... me if I was a manager i would alter my application process and get the right people for the right job within the company... royal mail what do they do... I'll tell you... they pay early retirement... and then employ another posty thats @55yrs old... asking for trouble... what a complete waste of money
Seriously, if people want a pay-rise and better working conditions if real ****ing easy, simply go on some training courses and work your way up the ladder.
People who stay in the same job for years and decades are way too comfortable and complacent in that role for their own good. They actually kid themselves at the end of it that they 10-15-20 years actual experience, when in actuality it 5-12 months experience and 5-10-15-20-25-30 years doing the same **** on a different day.
It's Groundhog day and the rat-race personified.
GLA and Enjoy your long weekend.
apologies yet another typo should read proposals.
cautioutone it was said by Dave Ward CWO facebook video this morning saying they will be writing to the business with their prosals and sharing with the CWU membership what they are asking for.
PP.
Any new job a person takes on will have a learning curve, but a Postie doing the same job that he's been doing for 5-10-15-20-20 years will be able to do that job, literally in his sleep at a speed much quicker than when he started as a youngster. So yes, it's still money for old rope, and this is the same in any job or field.
The problem I have is people should not be in the same entry level position for anything close to that amount of time, and the only reason they're is because the CWU has negotiated specific terms and conditions to keep it that way.
I have no issue with it, they're doing the job they're being paid to do and the last time I worked in a 9-5 type capactiy I had a clause written into my employment contract, that every six months it was to be reviewed and I could terminate at that point if I chose to do so.
For the three years I stayed in that position towards the end of every six month period I would hand in my notice, and every-time until I finally did quit, they would just give me another pay-rise to prevent me from walking out on two weeks notice.
Magnify that by 115,000 and you have the UK RMG workforce, of course they want to keep their existing term's and conditions because every couple of years they can pull the same stunt and with Dave and the CWU paying the Labour Party £750,000 it's no surprise that their MP's are speaking out in support.
RMG UK Employees because they stay in the same job for years and decades also being overpaid for the role they have, simply because of how the terms and conditions are laid out.
@ Dowsie3
Don't mean he is getting paid. I would say in every office 95 % do not take the **** with the sick policy. Dowsie3 example is not the normal, I know someone that in 33 years of service he had 1 week sick due to covid and he still wanted to come in.
Dowsie, sounds like a complete failure of management there?
Just a little thing on sick pay we have a postman in our office who got a paper weight last year for 10 years service when the manager gave it to him he said I looked through your sick record and in the 10 years you have been here you have been sick 4 years 7 months. He is currently sick at this moment in time he went of on 15th of june
'The better news is employees should actually find out out what their union are asking for.,..................
.,.............. next week at long last.'
WHY next week ??
Thanks