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LTI, It's very difficult to predict how well a share will do no matter how much research anyone does, this share is a typical example of that, i don't think any of us expected this to drop down this low, but this a chat forum where people can share their opinion, not somewhere you go for financial advice
Try and cheer up a bit mate
Kr
''Isn’t this 10 billion their current liquidity ''
''If Vodafone had 12 billion cash and a market cap of 22 billion, then the market has already valued the remaining business at 10 billion''
“It already has 10 Billion + in cash and is selling assets for a further 12 Billion in cash”
Isn’t this 10 billion their current liquidity rather than unallocated cash?
Never mind, your prediction (fact?) that it’ll soon be worth much closer to the book value, means this will all pale into insignificance. The addition of the share price nearly 9 years ago makes your view (statement of fact) particularly compelling.
The investment in Vodafone shares will increase earnings per share, which is one driver for increased market valuation.
Aviva sold assets and returned the cash to shareholders.
Vodafone are selling assets but are not returning the cash to shareholders, they will be using the money for investments, some of which will be purchasing Vodafone shares at way under NAV
Vodafone has a market cap of about 22 Billion.
It already has 10 Billion + in cash and is selling assets for a further 12 Billion in cash
Dan
'' he clearly has a mental issue''
''If vod buys back 4 billion euro's of shares & cancel them, the market cap will reduce by 4 billion euro's. The 4 billion euro's comes out of the market cap. ''
It is YOU with the mental issue .
I have already explained in numerous posts already, it just needs a few brain cells to comprehend
Rob
'' what you seem to have a lot of difficulty with, is you don't seem to be able to accept that other people may have a different opinion to your own ''
Am opinion is completely different from complete nonsense being posted - the people posting such nonsense should be grateful when someone points out that they have posted nonsense .
Whether Vodafone would be a good investment or not is an opinion.
Implying that the market would fully value cash in the market capitalisation is pure nonsense - as I have pointed out Vodafone have 10 Billion + cash already , so along with sale proceeds that adds up to 22 Billion. Vodafone minus the cash would not be valued at Zero.
''I know you are new to this board''
see what i mean - nonsense.
You will find that I was on this board before you and quite possibly have been invested a lot longer
''do us a favour and and try and accept others may have opinions ''
I shall have to repeat - an opinion is not the same as posting inaccurate nonsense
Dan, fair enough on that point , having read it again i can see i got that bit wrong i will admit that
Sorry rob, but I have to pull you up on one point to be fare, L.T.I. did not say it had been a good investment from falling from 2.55. He said he sold at 2.55.
Dan,good luck with your top up, we are all hoping enough is being has done to make this change direction, but we all know there are no guarantees, so fingers crossed
Rob, All respect to you, you clearly have a better way of saying things than me. Your last post about L.T.I. is exactly what I have been saying for while now, so thanks for that. Yes he clearly has a mental issue, & at least the gutter could be funny at times? No No No. go away gutter!! Have a good week rob. Wish me luck on Monday with my top up..
LTI, you explained to everyone how buybacks work and your opinion on it, and i think most people are gratefully for that, but what you seem to have a lot of difficulty with, is you don't seem to be able to accept that other people may have a different opinion to your own on the end result of it, and you insist on having the last word keeping on and on and on about the same thing like a broken record, resulting in insults if anyone doesn't agree with you
I know you are new to this board, so maybe you have just got off on the wrong foot, do us a favour and and try and accept others may have opinions that differ to your own
Rob
''Kev, this guy has clearly got some mental issues mate''
I'm afraid it sometimes takes many posts before some idiots see the light (if at all)
''He actually thinks this has been a good investment dropping all the way down from £2,55 ffs''
Why is it that people start making things up when they have nowhere else to go?
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Kev, this guy has clearly got some mental issues mate, he makes guttersnipe sound normal, totally obsessed with having the last word
Hopefully it won't be too long before the men in white coats come to take him away
He actually thinks this has been a good investment dropping all the way down from £2,55 ffs
Vod closing Sp 12th April
Unlucky9 120p
KiwiTwo 71.67p
Doyen Dan 71.4p
Roofer 69.75p
List so far Entries by 12pm Mon Atb
"Also sold at 255p on 26/05/2015 - maybe that gives food for thought/hope for those investors keeping for the longer term."
Yes, the share price going from 255p to it's current price is certainly reason to be optimistic about long term prospects and a close to 9 year old share price is a fantastic way to determine future share performance.
Also sold at 255p on 26/05/2015 - maybe that gives food for thought/hope for those investors keeping for the longer term.
The market values Vodafone on a daily basis - currently at a large discount.
On the 12th December 2017 I made a sale at over 230p per share when there was not
a large discount
The market values Vodafone on a daily basis - currently at a large discount.
On the 12th December 2017 I made a sale at over 230p per share when thee was not
a large discount
Kr
you are digging ever deeper.
Vodafone ALREADY has 10 Billion + of CASH on the balance sheet.
With your logic the cash on the balance sheet added to the returns from asset sales means the rest of Vodafone is worthless.
The're coming to take him away, Ha Ha. He He. To the happy farm.
I'm talking about the market cap, not the book value. If you think they will end up equal, fair enough but I can't see anyone, anywhere who seems to be of the opinion (and that's all these valuations and conjectures are) that this is going to get anywhere near figures like 63 billion.