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William Hill Share Chat (WMH)



Share Price: 140.50Bid: 140.95Ask: 141.15Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on William Hill
Spread: 0.20Spread as %: 0.14%Open: 144.50High: 0.00Low: 0.00Yesterday’s Close: 140.50


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Morbox
Posts: 60
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:145.70
RE: The future is bright
Tue 10:15
I also averaged down, but it does still seem that something is happening behind the scenes. My question a couple of weeks ago, before the Times article, "No director buys', can't or won't". Why haven't any directors averaged down?

Thanks for the link Idiot441, I think the losses on FOBT maybe over done, and were priced in at around £1.70 mark. US market is the one for me, Is WHM strategy to build up and sell? If not at least it spreads the risk of governments interference within the market.

Apart from the above very happy to keep for the long term and take the divs.
 
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:145.45
RE: The future is bright
Tue 09:05
Will do OK with WMH, Looks like we have turned a corner and great that we have had a few days of blues.
We know that WMH is a sitting duck for a takeover, So at this price, You cannot loose, Just need a upward rise to 197 to break even, But after averaging down once, i am not doing it again.
Idiot441
Posts: 48
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:145.75
RE: The future is bright
10 Jun '19
Idiot441
Posts: 48
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:132.65
The future is bright
3 Jun '19
I sold profitable gold stocks today to buy WMH. Could not wait and feel good chance I can buy back my gold stocks following profitable trade here.

For me the play is:
1. Buying near recent lows
2. Most bad news is in the price
3. Merger/bid must be a possibility - especially from USA with cheap pound making it extra affordable.
4. If nothing happens short term the longer term story for me is sports betting in the USA. As the markets open up in different states and with WMH having a good springboard position already.

Happy to keep long term
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:132.15
RE: Back In
3 Jun '19
Looks like WMH are open to merger talks, so it might interest other companies since its now in the open. It will depend on the value of the company
easyp
Posts: 1,627
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:130.35
RE: Back In
3 Jun '19
Suspect WMH has become a staple diet for shorters but this time a smaller punt and willing to wait until year end.
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:132.70
RE: Back In
3 Jun '19
Expected more on the SP today, I guess the offer to merge with WMH is to low, So least WMH are looking for a better offer, If it sold for £2, i would be happy, Just to clear my loss
easyp
Posts: 1,627
Opinion:Weak Buy
Price:135.40
Back In
3 Jun '19
Got burned here last year so stop lossed and lurked watching the news and comments.

Based on the Times gossip reported today have tentatively bought back in to see if this story has legs. Last week also bought back into 888.
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:134.05
RE: Question
3 Jun '19
Can't see the full article, but the headlines says it all, I am at a 34% loss at the moment and tempting has it is to average down for a 2nd time, I just won't risk it. Hope we get a good bounce .

I almost sold last week to put the money into PRD, pleased I didn't.

Gla
@hash
Posts: 239
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:134.05
RE: Question
2 Jun '19
I will not be surprised if William Hill is having take over talks and hence no insider can buy shares at this stage....

I think its a perfect takeover target with such a low share price..... it should see bids of 250 p + in my opinion......at about 80% premium at the current market price .

In the recent past they have had failed talks but with such a low share price the board might be more open to takeover..

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/business/william-hill-in-aborted-6bn-caesars-entertainment-casino-merger-xktf03ssn
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37022566

I would very happy to sell off my lot at 199p+........I have developed apathy for gambling in last 1 month after taking a punt on William Hill as the shares have been on a continuous downhill....

I hope we can see upward movement at last on Monday.
Morbox
Posts: 60
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:134.05
RE: Question
2 Jun '19
I'll answer my own question "couldn't" see Sunday Times.
Morbox
Posts: 60
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:132.70
Question
29 May '19
Why no director buys at this low price, can't or won't?
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:137.35
RE: FOBT not as bad as first thought
17 May '19
boraki, If its 4, This will be the reason why we see so many betting shops on the high street
boraki
Posts: 740
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:136.60
RE: FOBT not as bad as first thought
17 May '19
I think the rules are 4 machines per shop
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:136.60
RE: FOBT not as bad as first thought
17 May '19
I have always said that FOBT's will not be has bad as reported.
I never go into these shops since i don't gamble apart from the stock market, but my thoughts are, The people who use these machines will stay on them until their money runs out, Its sad and these machines are programed to punters money.
I am unsure on the rules on how many machines can be placed into any shop, But i am sure that the likes of WMH will get the maximum profits from these machines
boraki
Posts: 740
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:136.10
FOBT not as bad as first thought
17 May '19
https://www.racingpost.com/news/ladbrokes-coral-says-impact-of-fobt-stake-cut-not-as-bad-as-predicted/381059

Ladbrokes Coral's parent company GVC Holdings has said the impact from the stake cut on betting shop gaming machines has been less severe than forecast.

Having previously given guidance the government's decision to cut FOBT stakes to £2 would hit earnings by £145 million in 2020 and by £120m the following year, GVC said the impact would instead be £120m and £105m respectively.

The company has previously said that 1,000 of its betting shops were under threat of closure as a result of the stake cut, which came into force on April 1.

William Hill, Paddy Power and a number of independent firms have said their revenues had been hit by around 40 percent following the cut.

GVC revealed the news in a statement issued before its capital markets event on Thursday.

It was also set to announce an additional £15m of cost savings from the migration of Ladbrokes Coral to the company's technology platform, while current trading was said to be strong strong with full-year earnings in line with market expectations of around £646m.

Chief executive Kenny Alexander said: "As we reported in our trading update last month, we have had an excellent start to the year with strong momentum across all divisions continuing into the second quarter."

He added: "We are making great progress on the Ladbrokes Coral integration and we have a clear roadmap for delivery in the US, where it remains early days, but there is no doubt that this is a great long-term opportunity for GVC."
boraki
Posts: 740
Opinion:Strong Buy
Price:135.80
Getting around the minimum £2 bet
16 May '19
HTTPS://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41MsIKygq3Y&t=1097s

It looks like some punters have already worked out a way of nearly getting around the minimum £2 bet.

Interesting video on youtube showing someone using this method
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:131.65
RE: whm
16 May '19
I think i will wait until i see 2 solid days of rises before Averaging down, At the moment i can get my average to 150,, But holding back for now, I am not averaging down on a falling SP
boraki
Posts: 740
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:131.05
RE: whm
16 May '19
This share does not seem to have a floor at the moment.

130.8p has been hit this last few minutes
42trader
Posts: 606
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:134.65
RE: whm
15 May '19
Currently I am not in this share. I have traded it a short while back.
Personally, if I was in with an average of 197, I would also hold and possible add some at 125p.
It's a tough decision though and only one you can make. This share hinges on how well it can do in the US and there is always a possibility of a buyout, though I would not buy a share on the chance of it being taken over.

gl
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:134.65
RE: whm
15 May '19
Pleased that i am not alone, !!!! Sometimes its good to be able to chat to others during these bleak times ;-)

Good luck to all fellow investors
DaveT1
Posts: 32
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:135.35
RE: whm
15 May '19
I have a similar story but I'm happy to hold (and maybe add) expecting the US operations to grow and I'm encouraged by the statement in the accounts...

"the Board has committed to underpin the dividend so that it does not fall below 8p per share"
thechancers
Posts: 4,360
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:134.05
RE: whm
15 May '19
I don't know your stories with this share, But i bought at 223 and then averaged down to 197 when the SP was on the increase from 150 and i bought at 170, If i had bought at 150 a few months back, i would have sold out, so now holding with a average of 197 and to be honest, its hard to decide what to do for the best, but one thing is for sure, all of these sells now, the sellers must be taking a hit
boraki
Posts: 740
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:134.35
RE: whm
15 May '19
The floor keeps getting lower
42trader
Posts: 606
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:135.35
RE: whm
15 May '19
Looks very close.




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