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bignose58
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Today 10:45
Bothwell,

I don't think its a case of "not early enough for some". Many have been invested here for several years, and I mean more than seven. In that time we have had announcements of new license agreements (after the Recordati one) being at heads of terms since 2014. In fact doesn't it make you wonder why when they stated that further licenses could be signed by the end of 2014 only to see the first one being signed 4 years later in Dec 2018 to China which was not even on the cards in June 2016. JGs words to me then were something along the lines of "We wont be considering a Chinese license since it will take too long". Now maybe you can clarify what changed ? why did it change ? What happened to all the other licenses they announced were at heads of terms all those years ago. It surely could not have been only the Orient one since they mentioned other regions.

What about four or five different announcement dates of FDA approval ? And that's after the "unambiguous agreement" announcement in 2014. Surely if there was an unambiguous agreement, we would have started the trials long before Dec 2018. They cannot even get something as simple as that right. August 2018 I was informed by JG they had indeed started the trials in August when in fact we were later informed they were delayed till Dec !!! What an utter untrustworthy and unprofessional person.

I really think you should be a little more empathic to those who have rightly become somewhat impatient given the expectations created through the companies own announcements. Not once but many times over.

You are correct, it will come good, but it would taste a lot lot better if management had not deliberately lied and misled shareholders through their own mishandling of events, lack of transparency and amateurish projections. Everyone understands Pharma takes a long time, but the company has never once given any reasons as to why they have never managed to keep to their own projected timelines. Its no wonder why many shareholders are expressing their frustrations.
 
Bothwell
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Today 10:03
Mark my words. This will come good for us all. Maybe not early enough for some but it will be a success.
The.Italian
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RE: gibson
Fri 17:13
well pikey i expect that pretty much sums it up for most if not all of us on here.i haven't entirely written things off but I'm pretty close.im reluctant to cash in just yet (FOMO) and i suppose there is a certain morbid fascination to see how things turn out.thinking of calling time on any further AIM or small cap investments though.very hard not to lose money in the long term imo.good luck anyway.
pikeypete
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gibson
Fri 11:41
sorry the Italian , but to be fair all ceo on aim are tossers , Gibson although on hk is one of the biggested tosser …... like many I am getting old//////// based on truth Gibson and mellons should face the law based on the crap they have feed us and would be happy to pay in to a fund to expose the mis imfo they have feed us on this load of shite,,,,, I have now written of my so called investement , but will look in on occasions ,, bastards /////
The.Italian
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RE: koot
Thu 09:51
all is now clear pikey.and the number of recommendations is growing!
pikeypete
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koot
Thu 07:23
sorry wrong board , still could change koot to Gibson and be ok
pikeypete
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koot
Wed 18:48
utter tosser
Bothwell
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RE: feedback
14 Apr '19
Can someone give D Wylie an email to see if he can gives us some information.
The.Italian
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13 Apr '19
yes keithbfk in all seriousness i expect that is the attitude now of most on this board.im actually only a small % down overall as i sold out entirely at 60cents with a 30% profit but then bought back about 2/3 weeks later with original sum at about 62cents.so after 6 years plus on a strict arithmetical basis I'm a modest amount down but nothing to show for 6 years.i suspect thats a slightly better position than some but if we get back to 60 cents the temptation to exit will be strong.in practice if we get there i would have to assess the situation which had given rise to the increase before deciding finally what to do but joking apart I'm getting on now and have started to lose the appetite for further involvement.let us hope we get the chance to exit(or perhaps even profit)whilst we are still able to enjoy it.gla
Keithbfk
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13 Apr '19
I'd be delighted to get out of here with my initial investment before I start 'pushing up the daisies'. Don't know about money fountain! I'll be lucky to afford a sherbert fountain.
The.Italian
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13 Apr '19
speaking personally i would be perfectly satisfied with almost making it into the billionaires club,but perhaps its that lack of extreme ambition on my part which condems me always to fall a little short.lol.hopefully an enormous surge in regents s/p (many 1000ds%) will catapult him to achieving his destiny!
bignose58
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13 Apr '19
The.Italian
You are probably not far off the truth there. He cannot quite make the GBP billionaires club, not for the lack of trying, and he realises he will need to live much longer to become a member.... Lol
The.Italian
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RE: feedback
13 Apr '19
surely that's the motivation behind mellon's interest in Juvenescence!
bignose58
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13 Apr '19
Very true, but will it happen whilst most of us are still alive n kicking ???
Bothwell
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12 Apr '19
Our time will come when the money fountain begins.
Alquemie
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10 Apr '19
I wouldn't get overly excited.

Bunion's "recollection", (nice to know that he's still doing OK on his MMSE score) refers to the SimplyWall website, an Australian startup that uses autobot generated company profiles to drag in punters.

The "street" part is the .st domain name.....a small, but important detail and, granted, certainly enough to confuse the hard of thinking.

So much for the popular misconception that the internet is a more of a danger to young people....
Keithbfk
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10 Apr '19
My god, HK1.75, we can but dream. Let's hope the HK traders suddenly catch on to this 'money fountain'!
The.Italian
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10 Apr '19
very interesting article sidmr.looks like I'm wrong again re listing value but if it really does have the sort of value suggested it does make our current m/c more than a little puzzling.perhaps you or bignose could say how many companies with a full listing have values as low as ours.if the listing valuation point is correct you wouldn't expect there to be many apart from very heavily indebted ones.could be of course that I'm just not looking at this in the right way so happy to hear other views i do take your point about anomalies which may correct over time and hope you are right here
bunion
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10 Apr '19
I recollect from a couple of weeks ago that a named Wall Street website gave Regent Pacific a current intrinsic value of c. HK 1.75..........which, with Hong Kong and Macau shortly to become "live"........ Makes RP an interesting buy.
sldmr
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10 Apr '19
If you read the article written below and do the calculations we are now priced at the lowest value they mention that the listing price should be worth – you could argue that since the market has gone up since this article was written figures maybe should be higher now or that a fair reflection of that value would be somewhere in the middle. Either way it does look that how the company is valued at the moment (at zero or less) there is surely zero downside!!
Anthony Chow did mention this point at the weekend whilst chatting, in my experience these sort of seemingly impossible valuation anomalys do occur from time to time and do often seem to take a long time to correct, I'd much rather be in these sort of situations than just watching them. I'm sure it will rerate sooner or later as the valuation does seem very odd right now.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/lead-story-rising-interest-hong-kong-listing
The.Italian
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10 Apr '19
i imagine the current m/c reflects a number of factors including IP sales expectations and HK listing.i have never agreed with the suggestion that the listing itself has significant value .to me a figure of 40c was ridiculously optimistic.if true it would mean that the IPand future sales expectations have a significant negative value!i accept that the listing may have some value but only in certain very special circumstances .personally my guess would be 5 to 10 cents but thats just a guess.whilst the IPdoes i imagine have some value its really to my mind only a function of sales potential .if we cannot sell in quantity then what real value does the IPhave?probably not much imo but i am no scientist or indeed someone with any technical knowledge in these areas so could be completely wrong.for me the value lies in the expectation of future sales,the sales potential.the current sp has fallen because there is no strong belief that we are going to sell in sufficient numbers to command a higher price.if sales news is poor i expect the sp to at best stagnate.if sales look more promising the sp will i hope improve.i personally do not think there is any prospect of a T/O until such time as sales figures indicate strong future potential.al just my opinion.
bignose58
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10 Apr '19
If the sp is based on sales, the question therefore is. What on earth does the company have that is providing the current market value? Surely if its based on sales figures the company should be worth less than a million squid as we effectively have nothing else left in the bank once the tax bill has been paid. So does that mean the reason the sp has dropped to the current value that all the license agreements are considered worth approx 48mill squidaroonies ?
The.Italian
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RE: feedback
10 Apr '19
yes in a way it's quite astonishing.even though some of the news has been somewhat underwhelming in the detail there has actually been quite a bit of news overall but as you say the s/p just keeps going down.for me this means it's all about sales and i only hope the positive tone adopted by romero is accurate.i suppose he wasn't going to say "well we did manage to flog a couple of cans last month so things are looking up" was he! fingers as ever crossed!
bignose58
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RE: feedback
9 Apr '19
Interesting that our inherent value keeps getting less each time news is released. I wonder how miners fare each time they update the HK market on increased underground assets which may never be realised ?
bignose58
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9 Apr '19
We moved from aim apparently because of more liquidity, unfortunately our positive news just keeps flushing us down the drain. Our so called professionals with their years of being invested certainly know a thing or two about markets n market reactions........ Lol.




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