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Spread: 0.10Spread as %: 0.19%Open: 53.90High: 0.00Low: 0.00Yesterday’s Close: 53.45


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adoubleuk
Posts: 9,792
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Opinion:No Opinion
Price:56.30
RE: OT - British Steel
25 May '19
Jiffy,

"I concur/agree with your viewpoint,one humongous Scam."

Thank you for your support.

However, what's taxing my brain most (other than the fact I've been playing poker for fourteen hours and have just got back to my hotel) is the post that 'ajbjasus sent here saying that (in reply to an earlier post of mine) an amoeba has (percentage-wise) the same 'carbon footprint' as a human, despite being uni-cellular and posessing no skeleton (obviously).

Over a frugal and hurried breakfast before trotting the 800 yards to the casino, I did a quick google-search about amoebas, just to refresh my memory from 'O Level Biology', because amoebas are not things I often think about.

And I still contest that person's assertation.

I'm sorry, but my understanding now is that an amoeba gets rid of carbon atoms as fast as it can in the form of carbon dioxide, via osmosis through its cell-wall. Rather than retaining it in things like bones.

Of course, by 'excreting' carbon dioxide, our microscopic little fellow-creatures must be contributing to 'global warming', so maybe they should be exterminated. I wonder if Greenpeace has considered this? Though it might be a difficult task to achieve.

In fact,although I'm a very irreligeous person, if an 'afterlife' exists, I wouldn't mind coming back as an amoeba. Their sexual ploclivities are interesting, to say the least, and they don't have to bother about income tax or Brexit or all the other stuff which makes life a pain.

But on the flipside, I doubt that an amoeba gets the pleasure of listening to rock music at high volumes, getting involved in motorsport, nor the fun of owning Hurricane Energy shares.

In a further 'reply post', JayKay1 said "This place is a little more highbrow than most LSE BBs", which I think is quite true.

Let's face it, it's the weekend, LSE moderators are graciously oblivious to O/T on this BB about weird subjects, so I'd like to see other opinions about this thorny subject.

Who has the bigger 'carbon footprint', percentage-wise? An Amoeba or a Human?

We could even take it a bit further. Because the number of Amoebas on the planet exceed that of Humans by incredible orders of magnitude.

So who's running this show?
 
JayKay1
Posts: 1,833
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:56.30
RE: OT - British Steel
25 May '19
Jiffy

That was VAT fraud, carbon credits were just the commodity they used to execute.... But you knew that, right?
JiffyBag
Posts: 2,897
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:56.30
RE: OT - British Steel
25 May '19
Adouk,

I concur/agree with your viewpoint,one humongous Scam.

http://www.cityam.com/277226/tax-scammers-and-carbon-credits-decade
Genghis15
Posts: 4,005
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:56.45
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Finance. Not politics.

Greybull are a hedge fund. Anyway, apols, it is still OT.
JamesParsnips
Posts: 803
Opinion:Strong Buy
Price:55.90
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
If I want to get the arse bored off me about Brexit/Policitcs I will read the papers.
Wulbert
Posts: 308
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:56.85
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Genghis: " What you are all missing is that BS collapsed bcos Greybull, ie, PE vulture fund, screwed the hell out of it. "

Yup, £6m in "management fees" paid to Greybull by British Steel in the first two years. £100m profit for Greybull from the failed Comet chain. All profits "earned" in tax haven Jersey, natch. Vultures.
Genghis15
Posts: 4,005
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:56.35
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
What you are all missing is that BS collapsed bcos Greybull, ie, PE vulture fund, screwed the hell out of it.

Forget the Brexit arguments, forget CC, forget EU.

Greedy PE rip off. Research it!
JayKay1
Posts: 1,833
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:56.45
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
mytton

This place is a little more highbrow than most LSE BBs ;o)
mytton
Posts: 940
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RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
slow news day when u are discussing the relative carbon content of an amoeba!
ajbjasus
Posts: 1,032
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Price:56.35
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Drivel

What has the skeleton got to do with it? There’s just as high a percentage of carbon in an amoeba as there is in a vertebrate. Probably more.
shedful
Posts: 1,019
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Carbon credits biggest scam going people throughout Europe and UK made billions from the scam
And Many were jailed

Does Germany still use brown coal?

British Steel I believe the hedge fund owner bought a steel plant in France for near 50 million euros
adoubleuk
Posts: 9,792
Premium Chat Member
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Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
JayKay,

"The point would be who is loosing money by not at least trying to reduce their carbon emissions?"

The answer, I thik, is blatently obvious.

The proles who believe the hype.

My money remains in oil, but also sometimes in Lithium, a fairly essential commodity which helps to power the things which help to spread the hype...
adoubleuk
Posts: 9,792
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RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Jiffy,

"Sorry, but I am wholly against the whole concept of Carbon Credits. "

Just having got back from a quite disatrous 11 hours' poker playing on the Med coast, and thus feeling somewhat glum, I logged in here, and picked upon this phrase immediately.

And I entirely agree with you.

'Carbon Credits'? What an utterly absurd concept it is. Paople seem to forget that the human being is essentially a carbon-based lifeform. Unlike amoebas, for instance, which don't posess a skeleton.

Will I accrue 'dredits' and stop breathing, for instance, so as to not exhale Carbon Dioxide? Maybe, but I don't reckon such credits will do me much good by then, as I'll be six foot under and not caring, my putrifying corpse turning into all sorts of nasty things, a lot of which will be methane, the most dangerous 'greenhouse gas' around.

Of course, the 'biological machine' which serves to keep the thing I like to think of as 'me' mobile, and able to drive 'myself' to the Spanish coast to play poker could be burned, instead. (What I wish, as cheaply as possible.) Where does it go? Up in smoke, of course.

When I was young, even pre eleven -plus, I was fortunate enough to have received what I consider to have been 'good' education. And one of the earliest things we were taught in 'science classes' was what was called the 'carbon cycle'.

In O/T discussions here many moons ago I mentioned one of my alltime favorite books. It's called 'The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch' by the late great Philip K. Dick.

You can probably pick up a secondhand battered copy off ebay for a couple of euros.

If you do so, then re-consider the 'global warming' scam.

You're being had.
JayKay1
Posts: 1,833
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Jiffy

'...Who is making money out of this?...'

The answer is clear, no one...

The point would be who is loosing money by not at least trying to reduce their carbon emissions?
JiffyBag
Posts: 2,897
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Jay,

Sorry, but I am wholly against the whole concept of Carbon Credits.

Why because the EU introduced it and more importantly British Steel faced a fine of £500m from the European commission,but here's the lunacy as far as I can discern, entity's can buy and sell them, it's almost akin to a Ponzi /Junk Bond scheme

Who is making money out of this?
JayKay1
Posts: 1,833
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Jiffy

At least read the article:

'...British Steel has been unable to obtain its free carbon emissions credits for this year under the EU’s Emissions Trading System, after the European Commission suspended the UK from the scheme in December in preparation for a possible no-deal Brexit....'

There ain't no £120m, credits 'would' of offset it to £0...

Just saying...
JiffyBag
Posts: 2,897
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Bottom line is this.

£120M for what? the whole carbon credit fiasco is a means of punishment, it serves no real economic purpose.
JiffyBag
Posts: 2,897
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
ie, Carefully crafted EU policies, soon we will be reading that the British Steel Industry has relocated to Romania.l

:O)
JiffyBag
Posts: 2,897
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Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Jay,

Do keep up :O)

LOAN
JayKay1
Posts: 1,833
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Jiffy

The UK government covered the £120m weeks ago, nothing to do with the collapse, do keep up!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/01/british-steel-receives-120m-government-loan

Brexit and lead times killed the company...
JiffyBag
Posts: 2,897
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:55.70
RE: OT - British Steel
24 May '19
Re: BS,

One main factor apart from China is this.

T'he final trigger for British Steel’s collapse into administration, however, was not low steel prices but arguably a demand from the EU for £120 million worth of payments under its Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) – which is supposed to provide an incentive for heavy polluters to cut their carbon emissions. '

ie, Carefully crafted EU policies to add to the already existing global economic pressures, ie China

Soon we will be reading that the British Steel Industry has relocated to Rumania.l
Albi1
Posts: 683
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:58.25
RE: OT - British Steel
22 May '19
Shutt

I guess review the fundamentals and decide. Clearly many UK businesses with an export market are feeling royally screwed by certain events in our Parliament at the moment. That is not an invitation to mention the B word and I'm sure there are many other factors, not least China's and Eastern Europe's increased exports over the last decade.
shuttts
Posts: 105
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:58.05
RE: OT - British Steel
22 May '19
I had share in Severfield, another steely, but having looked at the numbers again - not so sure.
Albi1
Posts: 683
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:58.45
OT - British Steel
22 May '19
On another subject entirely and please forgive the OT, but sad to see British Steel moving into liquidation today. I had some hope the British Steel industry might have something of a revivial but evidently not. If anyone here lives near Scunthorpe or is connected, sincere best wishes to you.




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