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Just as I suspected.
There is always the Taiwan scenario....which will happen... partly because The Nationalists took China's finest art in 1949 and China wants it back. All about face, to the PRC...
HSBC as we all is one of most indebted companies in world.
This is one reason this stock is stagnated at this level and is just a cash cow paying about high yield to retires.
In 20yrs it’s actually -1.2% down on SP. Compare thst to Royal Bank Canada +84% plus 4% dividend
Compare against MS +163%
Compare against SOCIET Generale +73%
HSBC needs to rethink paying this silly high dividend and look at sorting debt levels and future growth.
It’s SOLD its Canadian business, that’s a plus, but that’s not going to fix this
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/25-most-indebted-companies-world-155258978.html
BUYSELLREPEAT yes indeed ,we are the west and the best .
As BJ (how apt ) use to say during the virus panic for every tremendous innovation " this is the best in the world , world beating" Then when it did not work and a few more billion disappeared down the drain before it could be distributed to deserving mates more money was printed to make up the shortfall . The BOE is as independent as a head from a neck.
Talking about short to me Trend of course it will drop ex div but recover thereafter in coming months
That is besides the point.
Drop way overdone on china provision, china is addressing its issues and Asia with usd devaluation through fed cuts will supper this regions growth and hsbc profit drive & hence share price
@tricky1276 we are the west, we can do no wrong. We are literally perfect saints.
Will probably drop tomorrow when it goes ex . Maybe by as much as 4% could be a buy / add chance .
Interesting that today we will probably see a corrupt western government cut national insurance tax in order to attract votes whist adding to the national debt . I wonder how this compares to the governance of China puts them on an equal footing IMO
Agreed.
Had similar experience with Barclays shares, which seemed to go nowhere for the past year and in the last month have soared by around 20% for no particularly strong, apparent reason. IMO HSBC are far better value, have better long term prospects and pay a divided (incl. upcoming one off payment) that is double that of Barclays.
I suspect at some point these will do the same and just take off, only thing I can think that is holding price back at the moment is large fund managers selling off some of their holdings (and HSBC isn't alone in this) to improve their liquidity after several miserable years.
HSBC when viewed alongside some of their global peers is absurdly cheap at the moment.
Exactly. I expected the dividend hunters to be piling in since last week or the start of this week at least. But nothing instead it is profit takers.
Any uplift should be today prior to ex-dividend date, so it is somewhat baffling as to why the price hasn't shown more of an upward trend, particularly as most other banks are up today.
Aside from a one off charge of £3bn recent results appeared strong. HSBC has far more scope than other UK banks and at current prices it seems really cheap, with a great dividend. China will undoubtedly resolve it's issues around property, particularly as it isn't as constrained when it comes to government intervention as many other western governments are.
This has to be trading at around £7 by year end.....and by then over 10% dividend payments will have been collected as well. At these prices this stock is an exceptional buy.
Why? I think it drops below £6
Should see a nice uplift after ex div tomorrow
Evergreen just went bankrupt and you say China is ok now. That has to be the most naive thing I have read on this board tin awhile.
China is stagnate, China has failed to convince EU and rest of world that it can grow without stimulus.
It will take a lot of convincing that you’re right.
We have China writing on the wall the year they will invade Taiwan too. Are you new to this world or what?
China thrives on secrecy which everyone knows!
Beijing’s approach to governance, which relies on surveillance and control rather than openness requires secrecy. Look at Covid, that’s all forgotten about lol
And to sustain it, the Chinese government suppresses independent journalism, and closely guards the kind of information that democracies freely disclose.
Just saying…
I do hold 2500 here, but am more heavyweight GS and RY.TO,
Divi is decent but the sp is the same as it was 5 years ago.
Wish I'd bought end Sep 2020. Gain would have been > 100%.
All those director sells masquerading as tax related show me that £6 is what the market thinks is fair value.
Can't see anything happening to HSBC - just ups and downs with the market.
So it's a bond proxy. A bit better than than a savings account probably.
You’re welcome .....
Cheers.
According to dividend max the next divi will be 24.425p and goes ex on the 7th March and paid on 25th April
How much is the next Divi in pence?
I expect the price to rise leading up to the ex divi date not crash. That is more concerning, all these analysts just put their finger in the air and decide really.
Maybe. Looking at simplywallstreet they have:
.Trading at 56.9% below our estimate of its fair value
.Earnings grew by 56.4% over the past year
RISK ANALYSIS
.Earnings are forecast to decline by an average of 3% per year for the next 3 years
.Unstable dividend track record
If earnings are forecast to decline then how can they say it's 56% undervlaued?
Check out Simply Wall St here:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/georges-bahjat-elhedery-bought-36-050133066.html
Im presuming this is kind of good news?
Thoughts??
Profit taking thats what
Any ideas?