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RE: Puddy
Mon 18:06
Be still, sad heart! and cease repining;
Behind the clouds is the sun still shining;
Thy fate is the common fate of all,
Into each life some rain must fall,
Some days must be dark and dreary.
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807–1882)
RE: Puddy
Mon 18:04
If this is the end I am so pissed off with all the BS that was spoken in the shareholder meeting in October.
It would be nice to hear from the company, hopefully this document that has been revealed today is old news and a settlement to make this company work has been agreed.
I'm trying not to be too peed off until we hear the truth, but surely it is over to FRR to get some kind of update to us now, either via YJ, Mlacy or maybe it is time for FSHG to make initial contact?
RE: Puddy
Mon 18:02
As I cannot view the document I am a little blind here. When was the discovery granted? Was it after these documents were drafted?
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RE: Puddy
Mon 18:02
5p, Noloss, That's what I got but waited and refreshed and it came up. You may need to zoom in once it appears to be able to read it.
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RE: Puddy
Mon 18:01
star - your talking about the injunction being lifted on 18th December- it was re applied. Do you think wed still be here with block 12 if it wasnt re applied ffs
RE: Puddy
Mon 17:59
Im getting the same 5p
RE: Puddy
Mon 17:57
I have not read the document as do not have access, not that I cannot be bothered.
I click the link and it says, document does not exist
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:56
Prodigy, happy puppy? Jesus, get a life. The injunction has been lifted, what do you think that means? It looks like Frontera can go to trial but essentially the judge is saying don’t waste your time. I’ve got much more invested than you here, and you think I’m happy?! Ffs.
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:56
What we need now is YJ, Zaza, Malcy or Mole to confirm that this is old news. If this was indeed the initial document, and that it preceded all those words of comfort, then we are still on track. We need to know what happened today, not 2 months ago.
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:54
If you can’t be bothered reading the document at least look at the dates on the document and scroll and look at the comments at the bottom of page 18. When that has been done look at the court listing from today.
Now I haven’t a clue what’s going on however in light of what we now know something is happening!
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:52
Would have thought that case would have been dismissed rather then a stay on proceedings.
RE: Puddy
Mon 17:51
For uninformed read timing. Not sure how that autocorrect happened!
Agree 5p it could be a permenant stay but doubt it would be granted as what would happen if by some miracle we wine the appeal. Would we then have to restart the case? Can’t see Cayman courts wanting that given their reputation for timing and cost efficiencies.
RE: Puddy
Mon 17:48
The Stay is probably a permanent one, i.e. that there is no case.
I've not read the document, but going on what people have said here it is not good.
It seems like Zaza decided to play poker with all our cash and lost, he could have done a fund raise for the $2m interest, I do not understand why he has gambled the company for the sake of $2m.
Fell well peed off
RE: Puddy
Mon 17:47
Star rage thanks for posting. My reading is that this is the judgement that we are taking to the court of appeal. So yes the injunction has been lifted but it was immediately reinstated until the court of appeal hearing. We knew this.
Not great reading for FRR but there is a lot in there about preliminary arguments etc which makes sense as the initial hearing was essentially an emergency one to get the injunction in place.
I think given the uninformed of the publication of this that my earlier post was probably close - I.e. hope has asked for the commercial case to be put on hold until the outcome of the court of appeal hearing as the current judgement makes it clear (sadly) that there is no case to be heard on any of the claims made by FRR.
Hope I’m wrong and today’s application is to stay proceedings for an OOCS as per the final paragraph of the judgement!
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:47
An ooc not in frr's favor? Was this a stalling tactic for the loan? Why was YA restructure deemed so leniant if not for evidence against Hope? Short term cash flow issues or box ticking for the loan agreement? I have literally no idea what is going on. Those last few pages of the judgment make very little comfort.
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:46
star - its from the 18th December. The injunction was lifted and then re applied
Heres the last statement in the document from 18th December hearing, delivered on the 19th January
it starts- the frontera group appears to have considerable value despite the present dispute and then goes on to suggest they should resolve the issue out of court.
Item 50 in the document - i cant cut n paste.
you've either been excited like a happy puppy and in your haste to post not read the detail
or you have an agenda.
Thank god when crap like this hits we are not tradeable.
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:45
No
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:42
So what is today all about? The Stay etc
RE: Puddy
Mon 17:41
We always knew they were incompetent lol
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:41
Star Rage.
Thanks for posting and read through everything and your analysis seems to have been pretty accurate.
As the judge said at the end it is more about a commercial judgement.t moving forward rather than a judicial one.
Let us hope pragmatism takes over,everyone puts past.thoughts apart and work together and try and salvage something my from this mess
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:37
I agree zip, but I didn’t like the bit where he wrote that claiming Hope neglected fiduciary duties was a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:35
I bloody hope so 5p!
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:34
NOMAD resigned 2 days after FRR were told the draft findings....
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RE: Puddy
Mon 17:34
If the Geo government take the block back everybody loses, maybe that is what will drive a commercial compromise.
RE: Puddy
Mon 17:34
Star, you said, "Let’s see what Frontera say".
Do you think we will hear from them!?