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He aint yet.
This woman rightly was jailed for 2.5 years for a mere 132k fraud. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-44459237 How can it be right that Tony Stiff can get away with talking millions to "manufacture" a boiler that has never even been seen?
That last post, by the way, was purely a speculative question.
Anyone want to hold on incase this turns into Revolut or Starling?
"It should be noted that no return is expected to shareholders in any future scenario" a testament to the genius behind the Flow mCHP boiler (half wits) and the Captains of Industry that comprised the BoD of Flow (Chumps/Scum of the Earth).
****ed!!!
Accounts update !
"it's taken an enormous amount of time to get from a prototype product to get to a manufactured product" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mpw4YlnVnk
"RIP the Flow MCHP Boiler "...it never worked, You were royally had over. Conned. Mugged. Had off. Fleeced. This was a sham.
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well nearly got taken in as I forgotten news of leat month; till I researched again. lol
It was a joke lol
Tree shake?? No, is dead! From RNS 22 May: Further to its announcement dated 10 April 2018 and following the recent completion of the sale of Flow Energy Limited ("FEL"), it remains the case that under all foreseeable scenarios following completion of the sale of FEL, the distribution to shareholders is expected to be £nil. RNS said SOLD....£nil shareholders!
Good time to buy... 0.8 coming up Multibagger from here! Mega Ramp over!
I have heard that there might be a rumor about a placing - someone mentioned in the pub that they might be investigating mining anti-matter but even my alter-ego will not confirm this.
Can’t buy or sell anything :(
They do say “if something sounds to good to be true, it probably is !!
So Flow is finally dead after so much money has been blown away and so many hopes extinguished. No trades yesterday and no bickering or speculation on the chat board since last Monday. And it looks as if those responsible for the whole charade will get away with ripping it off for about 10 years? What a sadly corrupt and dishonest world we live in? I was a member of The Stock Exchange, London many years ago, long before the birth of the 'AIM' concept but resigned and emigrated when I realised what a dishonest and corruptible institution it was becoming. And that was in the middle 1970's. 'Dictum Meum Pactum' has become meaningless and pulling the wool over honest investors' eyes is now seemingly an acceptable occupation, without fear of punishment. RIP the Flow MCHP Boiler.
I have no proof of that fact, yes speculation that one is at war, but nothing more !
But those seekiing redress do not post here.
The average investment was circa 1k, and possibly most invested in other companies and spread risk. I went all in - lost a considerable sum, a small fortune to some, and yes, some others invested large amounts, but magian's magic held no court with the FCA and all my babble will eventually find its way to the dustbin, to probably join the spent, redundant boilers, all in time.
Three solitary voices is not even near an hors d'oeuvre !
Your evaluation of "appetite" being formed from this forum?Certian Investors who have lost have great appetite for redress given the boiler never appeared. You concede the history of this screams scam to all but the most deaf and myopic?
Whether we are considering falsity, fabrication, or fraud is a matter I cannot conclude on. I have looked at open evidence and tried to join some possible dots, and given some opinions. It is very much now in the court of ex-employees to take this further if they have appropriate evidence, and there does not appear to be much appetite from what I see, or it has dissipated and I cannot assess the validity of what I have read here, but the words are very troubling to ex shareholders, if there is but more than a grain of truth in them. The overall funding for the whole four products of manufacture and one of supply was in the region of 70 million over a 12 year time span, not as previously stated by me. The possibility of manufacturing 1000 unmerchantable boilers seems and incredible jump to me, even in the imagination. I have written far too much on this and must get on this week with other non-speculative things. So Biff keep biffing and Jalpa keep judging, I have to now partake in the physical world. I may add the odd comment over time, but I have written enough. If I have made wrong conclusions, they were of my own opinion, and my apologies to those in the firing line but in the end, time will settle all matters.
The degree of impropriety is paramount, and the wording of RNS's to my mind is fairly watertight. There was never a guarantee to produce a boiler that pays for itself but certainly one that produced enough electricity to make it reasonably viable........the boiler either entered production as a matured production boiler in November 14 or it was still a hopeless prototype that wasn't fit for purpose in November 14. Also, a little bird tells me that 1000 were manufactured in mid /late 2015 despite the fact it wasn't fit for purpose, and that unsurprisingly these had 100% failure rate in end of line testing and were not of merchantable quality. A shrewd use of investors money that is. Was the boiler rolling of production lines in production form (fit for purpose, of merchantable quality) in November 2014? If it wasn't, fraud has been comitted and investors were duped. Difficult to be open considering the claims made for the boiler and the fact it never appeared. Most people have tells when they lie. Some have tells that are so blatant to be hilarious.