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BOTAK
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further political miss management
Today 06:16
this section from a report in today's Scotsman seems to mirror my words below

The Scottish Government bent over backwards to keep Ineos at Grangemouth in 2013. Alex ­Salmond, when first minister, burnt the midnight oil with managers and union executives, as did Ed Davey, the UK Energy Secretary, and Alistair Carmichael, the Scottish Secretary.

Why, then, are Scottish ministers now making decisions that could cast doubt on its long-term future?

A clue may lie in the close proximity of a general election, and an increasingly bitter tussle between the SNP and Scottish Labour to be the dominant voice of the Scottish centre-left. A further political complication is the recent rise of the Greens, who may well attract votes from both Labour and the Nationalists.

Is Grangemouth – Scotland’s most strategically important industrial complex – really now just a political football in the run-up to 7 May?

It is hard to escape the conclusion that yesterday’s announcement by Fergus Ewing, the Scottish energy minister, was a simple attempt to trump a Labour position which itself was a misguided piece of political posturing.

Of course, political parties will seek advantage over one another as polling day looms. But do they have to do so with a reckless carelessness about the economic consequences – for jobs and livelihoods – of thousands of ordinary Scots?

Both the SNP and Labour need to back off, before they do serious economic damage.

Very Apt Indeed !
 
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moritorium
Wed 22:33
Not good news, at least we will have ineos and job and energy security on our side. It's political we just have to roll with it for now.
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Courier article
Tue 10:27
Good find wordog

Its so easy for the general Public to jump on the bandwagon and make noise,s against controversial new technology regardless if its in the national interest or not, and Im afraid its the voting population that can be swayed and entity's like Greenpeace etc know fine well how to manipulate this train of thought
I was on a vessel berthed in Ijmuiden last summer and every weekend Greenpeace went out of the harbour mouth with there flotilla of boats with a large seagoing Mothership in the van , and believe you me the amount of money on show was staggering,so never underestimate the influence and power of these so called environmentalists, they are so hypocritical as ALL of there flotilla were burning fossil fuels just to go on a jolly and mince about,Im all for protecting the Whales but these people are not interested in saving the word and alternative clean energy but just being part of a trendy middle class boy/girl scout goup
When an elderly Gentleman like Sir Algy Cluff ( self supported wealth ) who has served his country by putting his life on the line in his career and now not only proposes alternative CLEAN Energy, but is inducing time and effort to the good , Such a shame HMG dosent the the Balls to back him in public
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Courier article
Tue 09:28
BOTAK
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GAS ?
Tue 07:28
The report just out that has sent shock waves through the Fracking industry, seems from what ive picked up so far, Is also negative to the Uk,s future use of Gas
SO
Which road will the Uk take to power the nation ? , we seem to have a very weak government full of Pussy,s , who would rather listen to there local K9/Dog club members view on the planet than listen to the Head,s of Industry who keep warning of the dangers of lack of domestic feedstock and dependence on Qatar & Russia for there Gas, IMO there should be a policy in place ( no matter what political party is in power ) to safeguard the interest of the majority of population and a clear policy in place for the future of Energy whether Bio-Mas, Nuclear,Wind,Tidal,Solar, or fossil fuels of Coal,Oil,Gas ( with carbon capture ) or even a combination of all of the above BUT For everyone,s sake stick to a clear road ahead instead of looking for private money from the like,s of us CLNR investors sucking us in then BAM ! overnight turn around and claim ,,, Oh ! Sorry were not allowing UCG to happen in the uk , but thanks for the money you invested and Just LOST !
Some one clearly needs to get a Grip ASAP, or the whole uk energy vision will turn into a ,, yeh but ! no but ! yeh But ! for the sake of vote collecting and not the interest of its people !
Rant Over
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scottish
Sat 13:25
taken from INEOS wewb site

The History of Grangemouth starts in the mid 19th Century, when in 1850, Glasgow scientist Dr James "Paraffin" Young took out a patent for 'treating bituminous coals to obtain paraffine therefrom'. The first oil works in the world were opened in Bathgate in 1851 producing oil from shale or coal.
So Im sure your Man ,,,,Jim Ratcliffe would not tolerate both prospective feedstocks being taken off the table by any political entity, Also
why why why would the Scottish public endorse imports from the US when they have all the resources in place local
Bizarre world when a few protesters can do untold damage to the UK,s trade & Industry ,
So let,s hope Sir AC,s powers of persuasion hold more strength than the voice and votes of a few non conformers who to quote the Labour prospective first minister in Scotland -saying he would not allow the country to be a “guinea pig” for the controversial drilling technique.
And the Scottish public sanction UCG in the Firth of the Forth
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scottish
Sat 12:50
Labour leader would ban fracking in scotland. Ineos would in that case be more likely be supportive of ucg for their Grangemouth Chemical Plant.
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Planning
22 Jan '15
Yes it should be, let's hope it is. I suppose the environment impact study will be the key enabler, then it will come down to funding.

Possible farm in partners:

INEOS- obvious reasons in forth of forth and have already laid down the gauntlet on supporting UK gas production.

Linc energy and carbon energy - world leaders in UCG and the use of directional drilling. They have pilot plants already running in Oz.
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RE: Caudrilla
22 Jan '15
Yes agree with you,you don't get the high volume of traffic with ucg so no problems with traffic noise and pollution.
Planning application should be easier to obtain!
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Caudrilla
22 Jan '15
Application blocked due to noise but passed on environmental impact and water contamination monitoring. Another positive for the Offshore UCG plans, I can't see how anyone would be complaining about noise.





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