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Afc Energy Share Chat (AFC)



Share Price: 9.50Bid: 9.52Ask: 9.98Change: -1.225 (-11.42%)Faller - Afc Energy
Spread: 0.46Spread as %: 4.83%Open: 10.25High: 10.25Low: 9.00Yesterday’s Close: 10.725


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El.Bow
Posts: 4
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: PPS
Today 14:32
Thanks Desertwolfch, I did wonder
 
Desertwolfch
Posts: 62
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.50
PPS
Today 14:07
Market Maker game today is until now : "run the stops" a clear example of this happened today or is still happening, if you check the trades and the bid and ask how it is moved it becomes well clear. Nothing to do with the company facts or the latest news, just their odd games... if you dont know what I mean .. google...
strontium
Posts: 3,252
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.30
RE: low SP
Today 11:33
Last week out of 11.5 million shares traded at least 7 million were classed as 'buys' (above the mid). As what people were buying seemed to be above the mid-price for most of Thursday and Friday, (because I checked with dummy trades) there does seem to be a disparity between the sp and the number of shares 'bought'. I keep thinking where are they getting the shares from to keep the sp down and the only answer I can think of is Linc Energy or Linc Energy directors getting hammered to pay their fines.
El.Bow
Posts: 4
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
low SP
Today 11:02
Maybe the low SP has to do with Adam Bond continuously mentioning the need for 4yr electrode longevity.
Desertwolfch
Posts: 62
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: Stop losses
Today 10:51
But to be clear its an order a stop loss, its on the market makers order book, so I guess 100 % they can see them !
El.Bow
Posts: 4
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
Introduction
Today 10:49
Sorry, let me introduce myself. Initially bough in back last November, then got excited and bought more, then had to buy more to bring my average down so now I'm holding 196,000 shares at an average of 12.99p per share. I only started with a small investment of 5k but got sucked in lol. Good luck to all invested, It does look very promising to say the least.
iWantThatOne
Posts: 526
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
Interims
Today 10:46
Caught up with the latest news last night -excellent progress. Surprised there weren’t more buys on the back of it - if seems only power generation purchase orders or their precursors will shift the price upwards meaningfully, like the 7m buys when the Oz arrangement was communicated. I think the likelihood of a fund raise in H2 is also keeping a lid on things. Very frustrating.
Desertwolfch
Posts: 62
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
Stop losses
Today 10:44
To understand next to the fact that MM can see stop losses when you place an order for that in is the following :

When you put a stop order in, what you are doing is placing a market order, which for lack of a better word, is in a “suspended” state. It is not active until the price hits your stop, or trigger price. Once that is hit, your market order is then live, and acts like any other market order. But what you might not know is that there does not actually have to be a trade at your stop price in order to trigger the market order. Only a QUOTE needs to be shown at your stop price in order to trigger your market order.

a Stop Loss is an order type, not active yet, but can easily be triggered. Actually MM`s just have to bid lower and ones the hit a stop loss by decreasing the offer side they can trigger it no matter if they can see it or not. This leady to more narrow stop losses beeing triggered. Usually after all of this a run upwards starts again.

So dont use stop losses at shares like this, either watch it, stay invested in the story or leave better right away.

Actually the sad thing is, there has not even to be an order on the books to trigger your stop loss, they can purely do it by the Bid ! A shame at all !
PurpleBagel74
Posts: 5
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: Sp drop
Today 10:43
Very surprised too. The news was huge, but maybe the markets fed up of AFC over promising and under delivering. The contracts not signed with Southern Oil yet, they’ve just agreed to take a unit based on engineering study and pay an upfront fee. I wish they had RNS’d the payment to confirm this. As it would be the first time in history AFC would make some revenue from a project that isn’t government funded. Be a big statement. Guess we’ll have to wait a month or so for a signed contract.
El.Bow
Posts: 4
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
Sp drop
Today 10:35
I did not expect this drop in the SP. If we had new like this back last November/December it would be up to the 20p mark. Whats happening
Cheekboy2
Posts: 22
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: Selling
Today 10:06
It could be traders making small profits after Fridays news and expecting more of a rise in the sp. Look at all the ramping that went on.
strontium
Posts: 3,252
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: Selling
Today 09:56
Hi Piltick, stop losses can be seen by the MMs. If you put one on, on the ii site, (not that I ever have) it actually states this before you finalise the trade.
Piltick
Posts: 3,056
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: Selling
Today 09:49
And to prove my point, look at the Bid this morning, down to 8.62 at 8:35am. On a fishing trip!! Absolutely disgusting!
Piltick
Posts: 3,056
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: Selling
Today 09:45
I don't think the MMs can see the stop-losses. They don't need to, they just need to drop the price temporarily to see what they catch.

I agree with you wolf. It's suicide to use stop-losses on AIM shares. I gave up using them ages ago because it seemed to me that if you set a stop-loss at any level, you can guarantee that the MMs will hunt it out and trigger it.
Desertwolfch
Posts: 62
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: Selling
Today 09:28
It should stricly be forbidden that they can see the stop losses set up !!!
On the other side who puts stop losses in this kind of share should ask himself to deserve beeing robbed.
But a joke yes, but it will shortly be absolutely oversold and react back !
banaman
Posts: 656
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.98
RE: Selling
Today 09:21
What a f***ing joke. I am going to have to free up some money and average down. That's assuming I can actually buy some at this price in a large enough volume. Corrupt !!!
ItsallBull
Posts: 458
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.58
RE: Selling
Today 08:59
Bargain of the century! what we need is more contracts to move this forward.
strontium
Posts: 3,252
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.58
RE: Selling
Today 08:58
Someone's stoploss @ 8.9071p?
08:33:42 8.9071 200,000
They was robbed!
Domino1
Posts: 206
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.58
RE: Selling
Today 08:57
Looks like the next cash call is coming, probably at 8p.
Tetrolite
Posts: 502
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.58
RE: Selling
Today 08:56
AFC top of the fallers board! Why? Stop losses triggered? Market manipulation. Someone buying in?
Maninshed
Posts: 1,545
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.58
RE: Selling
Today 08:54
A very large buy well below the opening price being worked?

Absolutely nothing in the last two RNS's justifies this.
strontium
Posts: 3,252
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.58
RE: Selling
Today 08:44
It's the artificial AT traders.
sleepydave
Posts: 1,041
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:9.00
Selling
Today 08:41
Is it forward selling?




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